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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: PaschalBD] #1306971
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Originally Posted By: PaschalBD
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The problem we as "americans" have, is that the republican candidates of late have been rinos or too conservative.


When I read this sentence I thought to myself, what candidate was too conservative?


I guess I meant potential candidates as well. My point is, the recipients of our tax dollars are a voting majority. We need a candidate that will draw some of their votes, or completely unify the workers in this country.

Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Bowfool] #1306996
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I hope I don't have to vote for Rand Paul.



Get the F out of the BATFE. The F is guaranteed by the US Constitution. Those other letters are not.


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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Atoler] #1307023
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: PaschalBD
Quote:
The problem we as "americans" have, is that the republican candidates of late have been rinos or too conservative.


When I read this sentence I thought to myself, what candidate was too conservative?


I guess I meant potential candidates as well. My point is, the recipients of our tax dollars are a voting majority. We need a candidate that will draw some of their votes, or completely unify the workers in this country.


Another misconception. Middle and upper class white Americans put Obama in office.


" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Bowfool] #1307078
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Right now he has my vote


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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Bowfool] #1307090
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Just heard he was gonna a abolish same sex marriage! Welp that does it he's toast


Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!

Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Bowfool] #1307091
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Did I miss something?? Where is Scott Walker in this conversation? He's the man than actually WINS elections against libs!


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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: bill] #1307146
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: PaschalBD
Quote:
The problem we as "americans" have, is that the republican candidates of late have been rinos or too conservative.


When I read this sentence I thought to myself, what candidate was too conservative?


I guess I meant potential candidates as well. My point is, the recipients of our tax dollars are a voting majority. We need a candidate that will draw some of their votes, or completely unify the workers in this country.


Another misconception. Middle and upper class white Americans put Obama in office.


Explain what you mean here? There is a dollar sign attached to the way 49% of the country votes.

Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: James] #1307192
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Originally Posted By: james
Just heard he was gonna a abolish same sex marriage! Welp that does it he's toast


I'll talk to him and see if he'll let you keep your husband. grin

Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Atoler] #1307195
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Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: PaschalBD
Quote:
The problem we as "americans" have, is that the republican candidates of late have been rinos or too conservative.


When I read this sentence I thought to myself, what candidate was too conservative?


I guess I meant potential candidates as well. My point is, the recipients of our tax dollars are a voting majority. We need a candidate that will draw some of their votes, or completely unify the workers in this country.


Another misconception. Middle and upper class white Americans put Obama in office.


Explain what you mean here? There is a dollar sign attached to the way 49% of the country votes.


Black Americans make up 12% of the population. So while they supported him at a 96% rate , they still didn't have nearly enough votes without 41% of white votes. Particularly telling is that he won 52% of the vote among voters with a $200k annual income or above.

http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/11/05/inside-obamas-sweeping-victory/

Last edited by bill; 03/23/15 11:26 PM.

" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: mirage243] #1307220
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Originally Posted By: mirage243
Originally Posted By: james
Just heard he was gonna a abolish same sex marriage! Welp that does it he's toast


I'll talk to him and see if he'll let you keep your husband. grin
hehehehahahaha grin


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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Bowfool] #1307229
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Cruz won't get the nomination. I think he threw his hat in the ring now to set up a run in 2020. He doesn't have the fundraising firepower or support right now. Pretty sure the nominee will be Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. Both out of Florida which has the largest population in the south and carries as many votes as Miss, Al and Georgia combined. Hopefully Hillary will continue to make herself look bad. Cruz is a smart guy he just needs some $$$ and more support.

Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Bowfool] #1307304
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cruz seems alright. I think Huckabee would be the best one. I just dont think Cruz could hang with Lynard Skynard on Freebird.

Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: WhiteCityHunter] #1307368
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Originally Posted By: WhiteCityHunter
... Pretty sure the nominee will be Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio...


Which is why the Republicans will not win. Again.


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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: HippieKiller] #1307380
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Originally Posted By: HippieKiller

Originally Posted By: WhiteCityHunter
... Pretty sure the nominee will be Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio...


Which is why the Republicans will not win. Again.


Not if either of those are the candidate, no one will vote.

Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Ben2] #1307390
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Originally Posted By: Ben2
Originally Posted By: HippieKiller

Originally Posted By: WhiteCityHunter
... Pretty sure the nominee will be Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio...


Which is why the Republicans will not win. Again.


Not if either of those are the candidate, no one will vote.


I'll write Ted Cruz in if one of those is the choice



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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Bowfool] #1307427
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I'm still researching the possible candidates. I'm looking for a person who has these beliefs and positions:

1. Christian who knows what the fear of God actually means and his/her faith is evidenced by the way they live their life, they way they have governed or voting history if applicable. A real Christian will not be pushing a Progressive Movement agenda and will stand for principles that reflect our founding--Truth, Honor, Virtue, Goodness. #1 is an absolute requirement for me.

2. Social Policy. Promote those things that are True, Honorable, Virtuous, and Good. Fight against the things that are not. #2 is an absolute requirement for me.

3. Supports a Fair Tax or Flat Tax plan that will transform our tax code/system. Part of that will be to eliminate corporate capital gains so the billions of dollars currently offshore or in other countries can be reinvested here in the USA, giving rise to manufacturing. Part of that will be to end the numerous loopholes and deductions that make it so hard to file our taxes and so easy for moochers to live off the government.

4. Supports a reorganization of Federal Departments to end the tyranny of the Department of Education, IRS, EPA, etc... Intrusive executive branch authority via regulation must halt immediately. If a dept needs to be abolished, so be it.

5. Immigration Reform once and for all. Build a physical southern border. Enforce immigration policy. Deport as necessary. Set up a worker program for the industries that need it. Zero federal resources for illegals. Work to re-write the 14th Amendment so that "anchor babies" are no longer possible--which will removed the latest SCOTUS rulings that changed the intent of this section of the 14th Am.

6. Spending cuts. America spends too much money which cripples the economy and household budgets of most of America via our taxes. Require a Balanced Budget, cut 10% each year until things get right. True cuts, not reductions in increases (which are not cuts).

7. Insurance. Repeal Obamacare or somehow, someway gut it so it will not work. Then reform insurance to open up competition in the free market nationwide. Health insurance needs to be more like car insurance--you don't make claims for oil changes, new tires, brakes, wiper blades, batteries, belts, hoses, etc...maintenance items. Health insurance now pays for tons of stuff that should be individually self-funded and currently helps drive up the cost of coverage.

8. Military. Fund it well to protect our homeland, protect our allies, and to fight Islamic and other terrorist threats as they pop up.

9. Foreign Policy. Cut off all funding to nations that are not our allies...no need for billions to be given to other nations yearly. Support our allies only in areas of direct US interests. Europe needs to grow up and take care of their own messes.



I'd love for a candidate to have all 9. But I'm sure I'll have to compromise on a few. But not too much. These are the things that I hold a steadfast principles. Can only compromise a little, because I've learned over the years that many candidates are just conservative in name only.


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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: straycat] #1307462
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Originally Posted By: straycat
6. Spending cuts. America spends too much money which cripples the economy and household budgets of most of America via our taxes. Require a Balanced Budget, cut 10% each year until things get right. True cuts, not reductions in increases (which are not cuts).


Originally Posted By: straycat
8. Military. Fund it well to protect our homeland, protect our allies, and to fight Islamic and other terrorist threats as they pop up.


Originally Posted By: HippieKiller
This leaves us with fiscal conservatives, but they will never be sent forth by the Republican Party. The reason? A REAL fiscal conservative would slash military budgets. Unfortunately, once you even mention that you are also tagged as “anti-American” and hung out to dry as well.


The best way to save a bunch of money & make us infinitely more safe would be to shut down 90% of our foreign bases & bring all of our troops back home. Fortify the home front (I love the idea of a fenced & actually guarded border) and quit pumping money into foreign economies via our troops.


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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: bill] #1307477
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Originally Posted By: bill
Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: Atoler
Originally Posted By: PaschalBD
Quote:
The problem we as "americans" have, is that the republican candidates of late have been rinos or too conservative.


When I read this sentence I thought to myself, what candidate was too conservative?


I guess I meant potential candidates as well. My point is, the recipients of our tax dollars are a voting majority. We need a candidate that will draw some of their votes, or completely unify the workers in this country.


Another misconception. Middle and upper class white Americans put Obama in office.


Explain what you mean here? There is a dollar sign attached to the way 49% of the country votes.


Black Americans make up 12% of the population. So while they supported him at a 96% rate , they still didn't have nearly enough votes without 41% of white votes. Particularly telling is that he won 52% of the vote among voters with a $200k annual income or above.

http://www.pewresearch.org/2008/11/05/inside-obamas-sweeping-victory/


I'm not sure how accurate those numbers are, I briefly looked up 2 different sources and they all said different things. I think with most of the stats, people can make up whatever statistic they want to. One source said 95% of blacks, 71% of Mexicans, 73% of Asians voted for Obama, while only 39% of whites voted for him. Between Asians, blacks, and Mexicans, they make up roughly 34% of the population. Now, maybe your numbers are correct, but I have a hard time believing that 39% of total whites voted for him, yet that number jumped to 52% in the upper class arena. If that was the case, then it would entail virtually no middle class americans voting for him, since below $60k a year was in favor of him as well.

The largest "unified" group of voters in this nation, are recipients of government monies. That scares me much more than a stat on upper class whites.

Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: Bowfool] #1307729
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Here's an email I got from Ted Cruz today:

My fellow American,

As one of the millions of real Americans calling for a change of leadership, I thank you.

The United States is the greatest nation the world has ever known, but recently we’ve been heading off track. Big government programs, swelling entitlements and overzealous regulations are holding all of us back.

That’s why I’m running for President in 2016.

Our country was built on freedom, enterprise and strong family values. color It’s clear that these values are still held dear by the American people.

But Washington, DC has become completely disconnected from the values of real Americans. That’s why we are now more than $18 trillion in debt, why wages have stagnated, and why our foreign policy is an absolute mess.

It’s time for new leadership.

Together, we can change leadership, change direction and reclaim the unlimited potential of each and every one of us.

If you want real conservative change and a proven record, I hope to earn your vote.

My plan between now and 2016 is to help take America back to what made us great, so that we can all move forward together. Thank you for adding your voice to our fight, and I hope I can count on your support for the long road ahead.

For more, follow the link: www.tedcruz.org

For liberty,
Senator Ted Cruz


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Re: Cruz Officially Throws His Hat in the Ring [Re: timbercruiser] #1308968
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Originally Posted By: timbercruiser
Ted Cruz thumbup thumbup

thumbup thumbup He's got my vote for sure...

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