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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Sharpshooter69]
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11/12/15 08:28 AM
11/12/15 08:28 AM
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I just shot a doe yesterday straight down through the spine and out the chest. Is that an ethical shot? She's dead! Just wondering what the internet ethics committee thinks?  She came out of some thick stuff right behind me and stood at the base of my tree for a while. I waited for a bit to see if she would move with no joy. So I leaned all the way over out of my climber and shot almost straight down. Right through the spine, and out the chest. Not my first choice of a shot, but the one she gave me! I think where and how you shoot also depends on what type of place you are hunting. I was on public land with no shooting lanes, no plot, tree limbs all over the place etc... Out there, there's almost never the most PERFECT shot available to you with a bow. I don't take head or neck shots. I always try for the vitals. This time, it just happened to be through the top of the deer!
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Sharpshooter69]
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11/12/15 01:58 PM
11/12/15 01:58 PM
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Lead Poison
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Definitely unethical in my book!!!
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Telum]
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11/13/15 09:19 PM
11/13/15 09:19 PM
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Sharpshooter69
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I just shot a doe yesterday straight down through the spine and out the chest. Is that an ethical shot? She's dead! Just wondering what the internet ethics committee thinks? She came out of some thick stuff right behind me and stood at the base of my tree for a while. I waited for a bit to see if she would move with no joy. So I leaned all the way over out of my climber and shot almost straight down. Right through the spine, and out the chest. Not my first choice of a shot, but the one she gave me! I think where and how you shoot also depends on what type of place you are hunting. I was on public land with no shooting lanes, no plot, tree limbs all over the place etc... Out there, there's almost never the most PERFECT shot available to you with a bow. I don't take head or neck shots. I always try for the vitals. This time, it just happened to be through the top of the deer! I've killed many deer with a between the shoulder blades spine shot. To me that's a good shot IF you know for sure you can make it.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Sharpshooter69]
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11/14/15 05:39 AM
11/14/15 05:39 AM
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Mossy454
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Some don't like being told by "the internet ethics committee" that there are acceptable and unacceptable practices when it comes to taking a shot on a deer. These same people may not like judgments being made on any behavior. Maybe we are committing "micro aggressions" against them by saying there are more important things than getting a deer "at all costs". I wonder if they have "safe zones" set up in their homes, to prevent from having to hear/read anything unpleasant.
Most of us have taken questionable shots. Most of us have wounded a deer. A lot of us reflected on that and have come to the conclusion that the act of killing the deer is not the be all, end all. And it's one thing to make a "less than perfect" shot. It's another to constantly take risky shots because you think wildlife belongs to you and you just don't care. The more we talk about it, the more we can put things in the proper perspective. And I'm not really referring to Telum. Mainly to a previous poster who obviously has no respect for wildlife and probably, other people.
A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Sharpshooter69]
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11/14/15 07:35 PM
11/14/15 07:35 PM
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Sharpshooter69
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The guys that I was questioning were all saying that they take ANY shot they can get on a deer. I wasn't taught like that. I probably shouldn't have questioned their hunting ethics, but I'm not one to keep my opinions to myself. I probably should sometimes, but I usually don't.
I was just wondering how many of you guys would intentionally take a questionable shot. (What I would consider questionable may differ from yours)
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Sharpshooter69]
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11/14/15 10:01 PM
11/14/15 10:01 PM
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Mossy454
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The guys that I was questioning were all saying that they take ANY shot they can get on a deer. I wasn't taught like that. I probably shouldn't have questioned their hunting ethics, but I'm not one to keep my opinions to myself. I probably should sometimes, but I usually don't.
I was just wondering how many of you guys would intentionally take a questionable shot. (What I would consider questionable may differ from yours) I also think it varies by age and/or maturity. When I was younger, I would take a bigger chance. At 52, I hope I wouldn't feel as though I HAD to take this shot or "I may never get another chance as long as I live." Sometimes though, seeing a scope full of antlers can get the better of most anyone. If I was after a doe and all I could see was her head at 20 yards, possibly further, and I was toting a 30/30 that I had complete confidence in, I would probably take the shot. It varies for sure, but I would not make a sport of showing off with a chance of wounding animals. And taking a chancy shot is a lose/lose. Obviously the deer loses. But then you have to make every effort to recover it. That can be a lot of effort. And time spent NOT hunting. Pass up the shot and continue hunting. Maybe the Hunting Gods will reward you who knows, LOL. I know what you mean about stirring up a hornets nest. People get defensive. Sometimes there are better ways of saying things I guess. Trial and error. But if they are doing this stuff to show off, they should be confronted, in some way. If we don't police our own, regulators will do it. That's how I feel. Obviously others don't feel the same.
A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Mossy454]
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11/15/15 08:42 AM
11/15/15 08:42 AM
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Sharpshooter69
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The guys that I was questioning were all saying that they take ANY shot they can get on a deer. I wasn't taught like that. I probably shouldn't have questioned their hunting ethics, but I'm not one to keep my opinions to myself. I probably should sometimes, but I usually don't.
I was just wondering how many of you guys would intentionally take a questionable shot. (What I would consider questionable may differ from yours) I also think it varies by age and/or maturity. When I was younger, I would take a bigger chance. At 52, I hope I wouldn't feel as though I HAD to take this shot or "I may never get another chance as long as I live." Sometimes though, seeing a scope full of antlers can get the better of most anyone. If I was after a doe and all I could see was her head at 20 yards, possibly further, and I was toting a 30/30 that I had complete confidence in, I would probably take the shot. It varies for sure, but I would not make a sport of showing off with a chance of wounding animals. And taking a chancy shot is a lose/lose. Obviously the deer loses. But then you have to make every effort to recover it. That can be a lot of effort. And time spent NOT hunting. Pass up the shot and continue hunting. Maybe the Hunting Gods will reward you who knows, LOL. I know what you mean about stirring up a hornets nest. People get defensive. Sometimes there are better ways of saying things I guess. Trial and error. But if they are doing this stuff to show off, they should be confronted, in some way. If we don't police our own, regulators will do it. That's how I feel. Obviously others don't feel the same. These were all younger guys, I'd say mid 20's and younger. Young and dumb comes to mind... That or they've never been taught any better. Now I'm not saying anyone that's young is dumb, but these fellers fit the bill.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Sharpshooter69]
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11/15/15 11:50 AM
11/15/15 11:50 AM
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Ethics are different for all people. Ethical or not, those are low percentage shots I would not attempt.
Take your kids hunting instead of hunting your kids.
I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.
Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: bama7x57]
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11/15/15 02:50 PM
11/15/15 02:50 PM
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Mossy454
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Ethics are different for all people. Ethical or not, those are low percentage shots I would not attempt. Perfectly stated.
A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument
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Re: Ethical shot placement question...
[Re: Sharpshooter69]
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11/15/15 06:12 PM
11/15/15 06:12 PM
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Birmingham, AL
Wade
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Neither of those shots would be preferred by me. However, I have killed one almost identical to the first deer. The fletching was perfectly between both eyes and I was aiming for the shoulder broadside. The deer saw me draw and was doing a head bob and bobbed at release. I've had deer jump string and ended up with all kinds of goofy hits. That is the reason I like big cutting expandables and that is the reason I can track so well, because I have had to on several occasions. No on the preferred shot, but sometimes you end up with some goofy hits. I had a deer get tangled up in her intestines one time because the exit side opened her up better than my knife would have ever done.
Don't give up, don't ever give up!
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