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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: Frankie] #1552711
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
to me trump sounds no different than the ones that clam that all white people are the blame for slavery and ever problem black people have had .


i can't/won't clam all muslims are out to kill us .


Read the Koran and then you can make that statement. The Koran says that they should kill us, and they will be rewarded for killing us. We have people on aldeer that think the earth is only 6,000 years old. These people were offered far, far better education than many of these muslim goat herders, yet they stick by the 6,000 years old.

"ALL" Muslims don't want to kill us. But what percentage are you "okay" with?

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552725
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Trump is not my candidate, but I agree with him on this one. It is a Muslim problem. This is the Trojan Horse of our time. If the "Moderate" Muslims would pull the leash back on these dogs within their ranks, then there may be a chance to stop the terrorism. But they won't. So until then we will just have to profile.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552735
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trump is paying a lot of people a lot of money to go out and find what us little people are really thinking. I say good for him but what would he really do if elected.

Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552782
12/08/15 04:13 AM
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Jeb Bush says Trump is unhinged. Like him or hate him, Trump's view on Muslims resonates with millions of Americans.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: ColeT] #1552795
12/08/15 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: ColeT
I don't see why the U.S. Don't just shut down the borders completely and fix our problems. I do agree with Frankie that not all Muslims want to kill us, but I do think that it's more than the average citizen. Just my .02.


This^^^

Y'all know I haven't been a Trump fan at all, but dadgummit I can't disagree with him on this. This is NOT a political issue, it's a deeply dogmatic religious matter, and nothing will stop it but totalitarian immigration rules (be they temporary or permanent). I've long been on record as saying Islam is the kindling for end-times prophecy. This may be providential, thus nothing will stop it.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: Frankie] #1552796
12/08/15 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
to me trump sounds no different than the ones that clam that all white people are the blame for slavery and ever problem black people have had


Frankie I think you are spot on with this. If you freely discriminate against one group of people, it will surely backfire at some point and you will end up being the one discriminated against.

At one point in our history a lot of white people discriminated against black people. Now a lot of black people are discriminating against white people. I'm not saying this is just/right, in fact I believe it is wrong. I'm just stating an observable fact ... the discrimination backfired and now innocent white people are being discriminated against. The blacks could never get away with this if whites had never discriminated against blacks.






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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1552797
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Originally Posted By: MarksOutdoors
Trump is not my candidate, but I agree with him on this one. It is a Muslim problem. This is the Trojan Horse of our time. If the "Moderate" Muslims would pull the leash back on these dogs within their ranks, then there may be a chance to stop the terrorism. But they won't. So until then we will just have to profile.


YES! I said the EXACT same thing yesterday on Facebook...two words: Trojan Horse!!!!!!!!!


We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552801
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BE CAREFUL HERE ... If we enact a law that prevents people of the Muslim faith from being able to come into this country then that law will eventually be used to squash the Christian faith.

There has got to be another way to do this ... I don't know, maybe better intel then go bomb the crap outta them ...



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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552841
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The government isn't going to fix this for us. We the citizens have to be as organized as ISIS and do it ourselves.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: deerman24] #1552877
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Originally Posted By: deerman24
trump is paying a lot of people a lot of money to go out and find what us little people are really thinking. I say good for him but what would he really do if elected.

I agree with trump on this one. But I think your right deerman. Right now he's just a talking head for a group fed up with the current leadership. It's still yet to be seen if he got enough balls to actually act on what he's saying.

Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552882
12/08/15 05:59 AM
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Of course he wouldn't and couldn't act on what he's saying. He's saying a bunch of idiotic bullshit that can't and wouldn't be done.

EVERY presidential candidate blasts the opposition, says they'll do this or that, and then finds themselves with knowledge after election that counteracts what their rabble-rousing stump speeches proclaimed they would do. Obama did this -- remember he said he was going to close Guantanamo? End US involvement in the Middle East? Restore America's greatness?

All of that changes once they get in the big chair and find out they can't entirely close a prison of the worst terrorists in the world, or they can't influence US economics like they thought, or they can't create internment camps for Muslims and throw out every one of them and also shut down portions of the Internet.

It's all campaign BS. Trump is playing to the "throw the bums out" crowd that, sure, is pissed and wants chance. But he wouldn't be able to single handedly change things other than by Executive Order. Congress holds the power. And Congress would hate Trump worse than a lobbyist with no money or hookers.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: Clem] #1552890
12/08/15 06:07 AM
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Until the enemy decides to wear a uniform there's no way to determine the jihadist from the peaceful.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552895
12/08/15 06:11 AM
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Why do many act like immigrants that are not US citizens have the same rights as US citizens? If a particular group of immigrants get "discriminated" in order to provide safety and security for the actual citizens, then why would the needs of your own citizenry not trump those of an immigrant? Cool how I used "trump" in my sentence, huh?

Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552896
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Simple, if they wont eat beacon, they are no friend of mine.
Today Trump was on morning show. I don't see anything wqrong with what he said. NO MUSLIMS that are not US citizens can enter US till this is straightened out. We are at war ! During WWII did we allow Japanese or Germans to come and go as they pleased ?


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552906
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Trump didn't say there would be a total shutdown of Muslims coming into the US. He wants a shutdown until the representatives figure out the problem. In other words, better screening process. I took it has him holding the politicians feet to the fire to come up with a solution. There IS a problem. He came up with a plan. Now is the time for him to say, "I came up with a plan. Now, I will listen to ya'lls (politicians) plan and see if its better than mine." They have only bad mouthed him for saying it. No other plan has been presented.

Now, Hillary's first response was it was the guns fault when it first happened. When it was determined what happened she has eased off that (Not totally though). Who in the hell would vote for a person that draws conclusions without facts...TO BE PRESIDENT!!

Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: Rocket62] #1552907
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Originally Posted By: Rocket62
BE CAREFUL HERE ... If we enact a law that prevents people of the Muslim faith from being able to come into this country then that law will eventually be used to squash the Christian faith.



I agree that we shouldnt just stop muslims from coming in here. We should close the borders and influx of ALL immigrants for now until we get a handle on the ones who are here already and set up a top notch background check and then only allow the ones who are spotless or have alot to contribute in.
Every year more immigrants are LEGALLY allowed into the U.S. than every other country in the world combined. Thats not counting the illegals that come every year or overstay their visa. I think we as a nation have done well above our fair share and now its time to think about national security over someone feelings getting hurt.
As Ive heard it said this country will be destroyed from the inside out and we are allowing it to happen.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: Rocket62] #1552979
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Originally Posted By: Rocket62
BE CAREFUL HERE ... If we enact a law that prevents people of the Muslim faith from being able to come into this country then that law will eventually be used to squash the Christian faith.


No it won't. AT least, that would not be the route.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: perchjerker] #1552981
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Stop all immigration from a long list of countries .

Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: WmHunter] #1552984
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Trump is 30 years late in calling for a total ban on Muslim immigration into the U.S.

Better late than never.

And just look at the spiritual forces of darkness screaming and ballyhooing Trump's remarks.

We can make a list of the traitors from how they react to Trump's comments. Obviously, that is all liberals/progressives/Democrats/the Media.

But let's look at the so-called conservatives: Dick Cheney and new Speaker of the House Paul Ryan - traitors.

************

Folks - add the names of all the other so-called conservatives and Republicans who are voicing disagreement with Trump's proposal.


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Re: Trump calls for total shut down on Muslims entering the USA ! [Re: Clem] #1552996
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Originally Posted By: Clem

Of course he wouldn't and couldn't act on what he's saying. He's saying a bunch of idiotic bullshit that can't and wouldn't be done.

EVERY presidential candidate blasts the opposition, says they'll do this or that, and then finds themselves with knowledge after election that counteracts what their rabble-rousing stump speeches proclaimed they would do. Obama did this -- remember he said he was going to close Guantanamo? End US involvement in the Middle East? Restore America's greatness?

All of that changes once they get in the big chair and find out they can't entirely close a prison of the worst terrorists in the world, or they can't influence US economics like they thought, or they can't create internment camps for Muslims and throw out every one of them and also shut down portions of the Internet.

It's all campaign BS. Trump is playing to the "throw the bums out" crowd that, sure, is pissed and wants chance. But he wouldn't be able to single handedly change things other than by Executive Order. Congress holds the power. And Congress would hate Trump worse than a lobbyist with no money or hookers.


One of the best, most sensible posts ever on ALDEER. Every candidate, R or D or Independent, makes grandiose claims when he's running for office.

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