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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: getoutdoors] #1622228
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Oh HECK yeah! I think the mining unearths minerals that have been lying under the surface.

Nothing but planted pines and that conservation Blend they make em plant..but dang..I see nice bucks and great turkey hunting.

You saw my post in the turkey section? those birds were from here too.

Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: coach2] #1622237
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Originally Posted By: coach2
Outdoor! Wow is all I can say! Man those are some great deer! Alabama does have great deer but it takes discipline and some folks don't like to hear it but in my area it takes money! Some folks are fortunate enough to have both I have discipline....the other one......I'm not in the soup kitchen by any means but don't have 4 or 5 grand to spend like some. But hey I'm blessed and not complaining at all. Great deer you had earlier this year I remember seeing him when you posted the story!


Man I dont got no money! I own my own land here in Lawrence county..keep it THICK and dont pressure it. Im a sneaky ole son of a buck.

Trust me.

Im just a lucky SOB. ATLBRAVOS from here will tell you. He hunted in Illinois with me. Hed sit the same stand and see 1 -2 deer..Id sit it and call in 1-2 shooters,and see 15 -20 deer.

I just get on them big uns somehow.

I do a lot of studying..of nothing but big bucks to be honest. Actually..I spent my whole life studying big bucks and gobblers through a zoom lens of a tv camera for 20 plus years. I try to figure them out.

One thing I learned that is NO deer reaches his potential at 3...they have to be 5 at least to swell on up. Im patient..Ill wait.

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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: ] #1622241
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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Heck..I AM a local hero round here.

It aint easy..I watch a ton of bucks and only kill them if they reach 4 plus years old.Usually 5 or older. You think it is easy to pass in that buck in that video? Hell..I was doing TV...I was PAID to shoot em!

Trigger restraint goes a LOOONNGG way.

Heck..the 170 14 pt I killed on COAL GROUND!
A reclaimed coal mine. I just dont shoot unless they are big. That 150 inch 14 pt too. Same ground in Walker county.

That's cool but you can let them walk around here and never get a 150. We have killed a few in the 120 range and have killed plenty 5plus year old bucks and they would all average 100 inches. Just don't have the genetics or soil for that kind of bucks. I guess sand and pine trees just don't have a lot of nutritional value lol


Life is too short to be small !!

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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: getoutdoors] #1622246
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Ive been really really lucky..some how filming all those big deer from Saskatchewan to Texas taught me A LOT about big bucks.

Id study them thru a 26 power zoom lense..just like turkeys. Id figure em out.

If I didnt after 25 years Id be one stupid SOB!

Check out my videos in the turkey section..I study game..I always have. I just love watching critters and figuring them out.

Turkeys..easy.. Big Mature bucks..another story.

I had trail cam pics of that 14 pt I Kill on TV. Hes 8 1/2 years old...just like the Big ten ( I kiled him as a Nine pt) from this year. He was WAY bigger the year before. I killed him at 8 1/2 years old.

It is a VERY HARD game to play..but it is the game I CHOOSE to play..I LOVE it.

One thing I can say..it aint easy..but it sure can be fun!

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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: bigt] #1622260
01/22/16 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Heck..I AM a local hero round here.

It aint easy..I watch a ton of bucks and only kill them if they reach 4 plus years old.Usually 5 or older. You think it is easy to pass in that buck in that video? Hell..I was doing TV...I was PAID to shoot em!

Trigger restraint goes a LOOONNGG way.

Heck..the 170 14 pt I killed on COAL GROUND!
A reclaimed coal mine. I just dont shoot unless they are big. That 150 inch 14 pt too. Same ground in Walker county.

That's cool but you can let them walk around here and never get a 150. We have killed a few in the 120 range and have killed plenty 5plus year old bucks and they would all average 100 inches. Just don't have the genetics or soil for that kind of bucks. I guess sand and pine trees just don't have a lot of nutritional value lol


Dang..I killed my first Bama buck in South Bama! 128 Inches and 2 days in Bama hunting.

Then went to Union Springs and saw a 150. Hunted with Ole DAX from down there. He killed a 180 plus. People know who I mean,..ep..If More folks would hold back they'd kllem.

However..dont get me wrong..Im hunting with guys that kill every 3 year old they see...however I just set higher standards for my self.

I only need 1-2 deer and 5 ( FIVE DANG IT!~ no 3 bird limit!) gobblers to eat thru the year!

Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: ] #1622277
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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Oh HECK yeah! I think the mining unearths minerals that have been lying under the surface.

Nothing but planted pines and that conservation Blend they make em plant..but dang..I see nice bucks and great turkey hunting.

You saw my post in the turkey section? those birds were from here too.


I'll check it out. I agree about the unearthing of the minerals. I guess the browse they eat takes it from the ground. I know one thing it's about impossible to plant green fields in that reclaim without breaking something on a tractor.


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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: getoutdoors] #1622279
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I think the huge numbers of big bucks in the media has diminished the value of a 150" buck to some. I think there are more big bucks killed now than 30 years ago because of all the "management" taking place, good and not so good. BUT a 150" + buck is still, in my mind, a truely unique and rare buck.


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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: muddyfeet] #1622282
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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Oh HECK yeah! I think the mining unearths minerals that have been lying under the surface.

Nothing but planted pines and that conservation Blend they make em plant..but dang..I see nice bucks and great turkey hunting.

You saw my post in the turkey section? those birds were from here too.


I'll check it out. I agree about the unearthing of the minerals. I guess the browse they eat takes it from the ground. I know one thing it's about impossible to plant green fields in that reclaim without breaking something on a tractor.


That is for sure...nothin but ROCK!

Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: ] #1622295
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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Heck..I AM a local hero round here.

It aint easy..I watch a ton of bucks and only kill them if they reach 4 plus years old.Usually 5 or older. You think it is easy to pass in that buck in that video? Hell..I was doing TV...I was PAID to shoot em!

Trigger restraint goes a LOOONNGG way.

Heck..the 170 14 pt I killed on COAL GROUND!
A reclaimed coal mine. I just dont shoot unless they are big. That 150 inch 14 pt too. Same ground in Walker county.

That's cool but you can let them walk around here and never get a 150. We have killed a few in the 120 range and have killed plenty 5plus year old bucks and they would all average 100 inches. Just don't have the genetics or soil for that kind of bucks. I guess sand and pine trees just don't have a lot of nutritional value lol


Dang..I killed my first Bama buck in South Bama! 128 Inches and 2 days in Bama hunting.

Then went to Union Springs and saw a 150. Hunted with Ole DAX from down there. He killed a 180 plus. People know who I mean,..ep..If More folks would hold back they'd kllem.

However..dont get me wrong..Im hunting with guys that kill every 3 year old they see...however I just set higher standards for my self.

I only need 1-2 deer and 5 ( FIVE DANG IT!~ no 3 bird limit!) gobblers to eat thru the year!

When I say South Alabama I am only talking about Mobile county....I know that if I was to drive just an hour north it would be a different story as for a antler size but for a home body myself I am satisfied with a mature buck no.matter the size. My all time favorite kill is by no means my biggest but after following him on cameras for six years and finally figuring him out he is my favorite. He was so old that his teeth were wore to the gums and missing some. I joked that he had to get so old that he was blind deaf and toothless for me to outsmart him lol.


Life is too short to be small !!

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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: bigt] #1622308
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Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Originally Posted By: bigt
Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Heck..I AM a local hero round here.

It aint easy..I watch a ton of bucks and only kill them if they reach 4 plus years old.Usually 5 or older. You think it is easy to pass in that buck in that video? Hell..I was doing TV...I was PAID to shoot em!

Trigger restraint goes a LOOONNGG way.

Heck..the 170 14 pt I killed on COAL GROUND!
A reclaimed coal mine. I just dont shoot unless they are big. That 150 inch 14 pt too. Same ground in Walker county.

That's cool but you can let them walk around here and never get a 150. We have killed a few in the 120 range and have killed plenty 5plus year old bucks and they would all average 100 inches. Just don't have the genetics or soil for that kind of bucks. I guess sand and pine trees just don't have a lot of nutritional value lol


Dang..I killed my first Bama buck in South Bama! 128 Inches and 2 days in Bama hunting.

Then went to Union Springs and saw a 150. Hunted with Ole DAX from down there. He killed a 180 plus. People know who I mean,..ep..If More folks would hold back they'd kllem.

However..dont get me wrong..Im hunting with guys that kill every 3 year old they see...however I just set higher standards for my self.

I only need 1-2 deer and 5 ( FIVE DANG IT!~ no 3 bird limit!) gobblers to eat thru the year!

When I say South Alabama I am only talking about Mobile county....I know that if I was to drive just an hour north it would be a different story as for a antler size but for a home body myself I am satisfied with a mature buck no.matter the size. My all time favorite kill is by no means my biggest but after following him on cameras for six years and finally figuring him out he is my favorite. He was so old that his teeth were wore to the gums and missing some. I joked that he had to get so old that he was blind deaf and toothless for me to outsmart him lol.


I understand that my friend. Yep..You have to have realistic expectations. I know that big bucks arent the norm down there.

Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: getoutdoors] #1622313
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I never thought I'd have a chance in Southeast Alabama. 10 years ago when I killed my first big buck everybody told me I was crazy for not mounting it because it'd be the biggest buck I'd ever kill. It was about a 120" 10 pt. Now I have a few bigger than him, including the 162" brute in my avatar from this season. And I've seen wayyyy more true giants taken in my area the last two years than I have my whole life. We still have a good bit of agriculture here and I think the QDM philosophy and buck limit combined with our above average amount of agriculture (Houston/Henry county) have led to a spike in bigger bucks. I saw three racked bucks Wednesday over 120". That was unheard of 10 years ago atleast in my circles.

Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: coach2] #1622315
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Originally Posted By: coach2
Outdoor! Wow is all I can say! Man those are some great deer! Alabama does have great deer but it takes discipline and some folks don't like to hear it but in my area it takes money! Some folks are fortunate enough to have both I have discipline....the other one......I'm not in the soup kitchen by any means but don't have 4 or 5 grand to spend like some. But hey I'm blessed and not complaining at all. Great deer you had earlier this year I remember seeing him when you posted the story!


Thanks buddy. I try hard to let em grow as old as I can.

I pass 3yr olds to see my friends shoot em..but heck I dont mind.
3 yrs old beyond their ears..8 pts or better is how we manage deer in my area.

Just as long as few make it to older.

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I think the main ingredients to trying to reach the 150 goal is nutrition , age , and the genetics help but we as hunters can help them more by providing all their needs ex. current deer on a place with no nutritional help will be just what they are 100 to 125 for ex.
Take a new born buck or doe give them year round mineral , protein and fertilized browse by age 5 to 7 and look at the difference , I think we would all be amazed at the difference if you could compare the two .
I realize it takes time and lots of cash over a period of years but we can greatly improve our quality of does and bucks . I saw a great example just last night of a managed club had a guy show me pics of 145-150 8 point 4 years old walk out at 45 yards and the member let him go he said it took years to get to this point but its paying off , they have killed 170 inch bucks off their place by everyone being devoted to trigger control .
Patience is a huge key to management but if everyone can buy in then the skies the limit .

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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Heck..I AM a local hero round here.

It aint easy..I watch a ton of bucks and only kill them if they reach 4 plus years old.Usually 5 or older. You think it is easy to pass in that buck in that video? Hell..I was doing TV...I was PAID to shoot em!

Trigger restraint goes a LOOONNGG way.

Heck..the 170 14 pt I killed on COAL GROUND!
A reclaimed coal mine. I just dont shoot unless they are big. That 150 inch 14 pt too. Same ground in Walker county.


You're a cocky bastard aren't you?

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Heck!!! That's one goofy m'fer there

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Originally Posted By: outdoorobsession
Heck..I AM a local hero round here.

It aint easy..I watch a ton of bucks and only kill them if they reach 4 plus years old.Usually 5 or older. You think it is easy to pass in that buck in that video? Hell..I was doing TV...I was PAID to shoot em!

Trigger restraint goes a LOOONNGG way.

Heck..the 170 14 pt I killed on COAL GROUND!
A reclaimed coal mine. I just dont shoot unless they are big. That 150 inch 14 pt too. Same ground in Walker county.


You're a cocky bastard aren't you?


Lol...not really Atoler. That was a joke..

I screwed up NOT shooting that buck. Need to get some glasses I reckon.

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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: KWlogtruck] #1622682
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Heck!!! That's one goofy m'fer there


That aint what yer gal said arsewipe.

Lets see you and your big deer pics...

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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: Anonymous] #1622702
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I personally think it is harder to do now. More people are high grading in our area, meaning they're killing the very best out of the two and three yr age classes, resulting in fewer high scoring deer. We are growing plenty of mature bucks, but they are not high scoring, because those deer get killed younger. I've seen plenty of deer that had the potential to be 150+ with another year or two, but they didn't make it.


Absolutely and I would say accurate in most of AL.


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I have two thoughts. 150" are rare indeed. They have been many killed over the years. Second. With all the instant communication available today more of them are know about, where as in the past info was passed along by work of mouth.


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Re: Is killing a 150 class buck the same as it was 30 years ago [Re: Blessed] #1622738
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I think the main ingredients to trying to reach the 150 goal is nutrition , age , and the genetics help but we as hunters can help them more by providing all their needs ex. current deer on a place with no nutritional help will be just what they are 100 to 125 for ex.
Take a new born buck or doe give them year round mineral , protein and fertilized browse by age 5 to 7 and look at the difference , I think we would all be amazed at the difference if you could compare the two .
I realize it takes time and lots of cash over a period of years but we can greatly improve our quality of does and bucks . I saw a great example just last night of a managed club had a guy show me pics of 145-150 8 point 4 years old walk out at 45 yards and the member let him go he said it took years to get to this point but its paying off , they have killed 170 inch bucks off their place by everyone being devoted to trigger control .
Patience is a huge key to management but if everyone can buy in then the skies the limit .


I agree with most of that and it would take.a lot of money to provide enough nutrition to make a huge difference more than most people can afford. Trigger control is the biggest obstacle to over come. As far as letting big four year olds walk would be great if you knew for a fact they were four. But it is very hard to age them on the hoof when they get 4 and older. I would say most hunters can not do it on a consistence basis. Because weight of the deer will lie to you same as score when trying to judge age. We killed one that scored over 150 but only weighed 153 lbs. had that deer only scored 120 you would have thought he was a good 3 year old. But by tooth wear he was aged at 6. I just think 90% or more of people would have a very difficult trying to judge deer ages after they reach 4. Heck I would say most people have trouble judging between three and four year olds.


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