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Thinking about opening a Club #1624030
01/24/16 06:50 AM
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Rickybobby Offline OP
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Now this is just hypothetical and I'd like a discussion on this but here are the rules

5000acres 15 members 25 green fields lush and beautiful
Dues for membership $500 yr
No guest/kids/family restrictions the more the merrier

Now here's the fun part:

Each deer killed on a membership count towards that membership. Unlimited deer though
Since it's such a cheap club for so much land we gotta fundraiser
Does are $250
Bucks under 3.5yrs are $500
First buck that's 3.5yrs is $250 then increases by $100
Green field hunts are $25 a hunt

Whatcha think?


At times my ambition far exceeds my talent.
Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624032
01/24/16 06:52 AM
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How's the turkey hunting?


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Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624036
01/24/16 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rickybobby
Now this is just hypothetical and I'd like a discussion on this but here are the rules

5000acres 15 members 25 green fields lush and beautiful
Dues for membership $500 yr
No guest/kids/family restrictions the more the merrier

Now here's the fun part:

Each deer killed on a membership count towards that membership. Unlimited deer though
Since it's such a cheap club for so much land we gotta fundraiser
Does are $250
Bucks under 3.5yrs are $500
First buck that's 3.5yrs is $250 then increases by $100
Green field hunts are $25 a hunt

Whatcha think?




Good luck with that. I think you'd need an enforcer/accountant on staff full-time to keep up with it and that'd end up running members off.


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Whatever suits you just tickles me plum to death.

Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?

Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624048
01/24/16 07:16 AM
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Yeah I'd say you been meditating to much on this .

Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624049
01/24/16 07:20 AM
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the term "nickle and dime my ass to death" comes to mind... grin


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Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624070
01/24/16 07:46 AM
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"The more the merrier" part is what turns me off from the whole Idea.

It sounds like it would be difficult to maintian/ enforce but could break up the monotomy of a regular ole huntin club.


The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624073
01/24/16 07:49 AM
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What is no one kills a deer because they are waiting on a big buck, or don't like to shoot does for $250. How are you going to pay the lease.

Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624079
01/24/16 07:54 AM
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No way you'd ever be able to monitor that.

Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624097
01/24/16 08:23 AM
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I kinda like your concept because the additional money for each deer would really force the members to think before pulling the trigger. However, I think you risk having very few deer killed and be unable to pay the lease. Lastly, I don't like the fact that a doe costs the same as a 3.5 year old buck. If someone wants a deer for meat, you should encourage them to take a doe for that instead of a 3.5 year old buck.


"When there was no fowl, we ate crawdad, when there was no crawdad, we ate sand."

"YOU ATE SAND!" - Raising Arizona
Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Yelp softly] #1624102
01/24/16 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
I kinda like your concept because the additional money for each deer would really force the members to think before pulling the trigger. However, I think you risk having very few deer killed and be unable to pay the lease. Lastly, I don't like the fact that a doe costs the same as a 3.5 year old buck. If someone wants a deer for meat, you should encourage them to take a doe for that instead of a 3.5 year old buck.
^^exactly

Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624108
01/24/16 08:34 AM
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It sounds like your idea is to generate a personal profit. If that is your plan, just become an outfitter.


"The struggle you're in today, is developing the strength you need for tomorrow."
Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Hunting-231] #1624117
01/24/16 08:39 AM
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in my neck of the woods, the lease alone would cost $50-60,000.
Profit wouldn't be my concern

Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624120
01/24/16 08:40 AM
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You think policing a website is tough, open a club & invite the masses... slap


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Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624124
01/24/16 08:43 AM
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No offense but hell no. And what would you do if mid season a twister come thru and tore that place apart. Hardly any deer killed. You would be screwed.

Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Yelp softly] #1624138
01/24/16 08:55 AM
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I believe your gonna need more than 25 green fields, unless they are humongous. I'd still suggest making more 50-100 in the 5-8 acre range. Then you have summer time planting.

Someone better have some deep pockets, as there isn't going to be enough money to keep it going.


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Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624192
01/24/16 09:40 AM
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That would be like paying to go out on a charter boat and being charged for catching a fish. Just doesn't sound right.

Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rebelman] #1624207
01/24/16 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman
That would be like paying to go out on a charter boat and being charged for catching a fish. Just doesn't sound right.


This. Not to mention the notion of unlimited harvest per membership is like burning the furniture to stay warm.


Micah 6:8
Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624321
01/24/16 11:52 AM
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Who pays the difference if theres not enough to cover the lease?


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Higher than my expectations
Well, I have really good days" Ray Wylie Hubbard
Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rickybobby] #1624323
01/24/16 11:54 AM
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Ok so let's go to $150 per doe and only 2 guns per membership per hunt.

So this brings it to
Does $150
Young bucks $500
Mature deer $350 1st then +$100 extra
Greenfield usage fees $25
Any surplus will be directly applied to the following years fee schedule so as the members benefit



All deer fees are to be paid in full before hunting again and greenfield fees are assessed at the end of the week via the log.

And all deer are very welcome to be killed.

Think about this set of rules seriously. How much bs would this eliminate in clubs. Go look at the Clubs/Leases section right now. Deer season isn't over yet and there's tons of people already unhappy. On the first year is expect to lose money.


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Re: Thinking about opening a Club [Re: Rebelman] #1624327
01/24/16 11:57 AM
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Rickybobby Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman
That would be like paying to go out on a charter boat and being charged for catching a fish. Just doesn't sound right.


There's a couple guys in Texas that own commercial fishing boats and if you pay for the fish they'll take you out there to catch them for free.


At times my ambition far exceeds my talent.
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