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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: mdf] #1651615
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Some regulations are necessary. Those that are support such regulations are not pro big government or liberals like some people are trying to insinuate on here. Thats the point. I really wish everyone was honest and responsible enough where we could just do away with all this. Unfortunately, thats not the case.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Stikman] #1651617
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Originally Posted by Stikman
We have a 5 doe per member limit!
I never said that everyone shoots their 5!
I didn't shoot any does this year but I had a guest shoot 1 and my son shot 2.
I don't see anything wrong with seeing anything wrong with with seeing only 4 deer a hunt. What I was trying to say was if you hunt out of a shooting house on a greenfield every day then don't expect to see deer!
I very rarely hunt out of a kill box mainly because it takes away my ability to hear and personally I think it's lazy and boring!
Do yall really think that killing a deer is that big of a challenge?
Off the top of my head I think I let somewhere around 30 bucks walk this year and I didn't go out hunting until a week after Christmas.
My personal deer sightings were 150+ deer.
Somewhere around 85 total deer killed on 7400 acres.
They're called wood rats for a reason.
I don't need to shoot a 150 inch deer to make my season, all I need is a place for my kids to learn the sport.
But by the attitude of some it appears to me that tall might be stretching a few laws and have something to hide!


I would have to ask why you go to your club every day during he summer and not hunt until December.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651619
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Mainly because I have a job!!!
Not to mention the fact that it was 80° most of December ND November

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651621
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That's cool. Just most people who would take the time to go to their club every day during the summer would be itching to hunt.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651624
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What I'm trying to say is new Laws won't help. The Gamewarden is stretch to the breaking point now. They ride all night around here killing them all year I just helped my neighbor pull a spike out of his pond someone shot last night. Now if you guys Really think Tags are going to help what the REAL problem is you will vote Ardvark. Look guys I live in the woods I see what the problems are it's not the guys hunting that are doing it. Its Just the truth. You want better hunting build up a fund and help the law enforcement we do have take care of the LAWS we have already. That's my point! All the rules In the world won't stop it.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651627
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You might not like my view on tags but if you would manage like me you could have something like this!

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: swampcracker] #1651629
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Originally Posted by swampcracker
What I'm trying to say is new Laws won't help. The Gamewarden is stretch to the breaking point now. They ride all night around here killing them all year I just helped my neighbor pull a spike out of his pond someone shot last night. Now if you guys Really think Tags are going to help what the REAL problem is you will vote Ardvark. Look guys I live in the woods I see what the problems are it's not the guys hunting that are doing it. Its Just the truth. You want better hunting build up a fund and help the law enforcement we do have take care of the LAWS we have already. That's my point! All the rules In the world won't stop it.


It's not "more laws" it's just changing the language and making them work better.

The law now is 3 bucks a season. Tags doesn't change that, it just makes it more honest

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: jbc] #1651631
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Originally Posted by jbc
Originally Posted by swampcracker
What I'm trying to say is new Laws won't help. The Gamewarden is stretch to the breaking point now. They ride all night around here killing them all year I just helped my neighbor pull a spike out of his pond someone shot last night. Now if you guys Really think Tags are going to help what the REAL problem is you will vote Ardvark. Look guys I live in the woods I see what the problems are it's not the guys hunting that are doing it. Its Just the truth. You want better hunting build up a fund and help the law enforcement we do have take care of the LAWS we have already. That's my point! All the rules In the world won't stop it.


It's not "more laws" it's just changing the language and making them work better.

The law now is 3 bucks a season. Tags doesn't change that, it just makes it more honest

Beating a dead horse with this bunch jbc

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Stikman] #1651634
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Originally Posted by Stikman

Originally Posted by jbc
Originally Posted by swampcracker
What I'm trying to say is new Laws won't help. The Gamewarden is stretch to the breaking point now. They ride all night around here killing them all year I just helped my neighbor pull a spike out of his pond someone shot last night. Now if you guys Really think Tags are going to help what the REAL problem is you will vote Ardvark. Look guys I live in the woods I see what the problems are it's not the guys hunting that are doing it. Its Just the truth. You want better hunting build up a fund and help the law enforcement we do have take care of the LAWS we have already. That's my point! All the rules In the world won't stop it.


It's not "more laws" it's just changing the language and making them work better.

The law now is 3 bucks a season. Tags doesn't change that, it just makes it more honest

Beating a dead horse with this bunch jbc


A lot of times I feel like it's just this:

http://youtu.be/2ZBYLIUqmIs

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651639
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You already have that. Now if a outlaw cheats it don't you think he's going to cheat it because you punch a hole in paper or wrap a band around the rack? Its a waste of tax payers money to pay them goofs to say yea or nea and take 6 months of billing and file. Screw that hire a few more hungry young Gamewarden that will burn up the back roads at midnight and the guys that only have 300 acres can have 30 deer in a field. Cus right now I don't care if You get 1-buck a yr and 1doe tag it's still going to be like it is and always has been.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: swampcracker] #1651642
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Originally Posted by swampcracker
What I'm trying to say is new Laws won't help. The Gamewarden is stretch to the breaking point now. They ride all night around here killing them all year I just helped my neighbor pull a spike out of his pond someone shot last night. Now if you guys Really think Tags are going to help what the REAL problem is you will vote Ardvark. Look guys I live in the woods I see what the problems are it's not the guys hunting that are doing it. Its Just the truth. You want better hunting build up a fund and help the law enforcement we do have take care of the LAWS we have already. That's my point! All the rules In the world won't stop it.


I definitely agree that the gamewardens need more help. Poachers make me sick. I would be in favor of higher license prices if the money went to directly funding the game enforcement officers.
The officers need to have clear laws they can enforce though. The Alabama regs are not clear or enforceable. All some of us want is clear laws that can be enforced.
It would be a whole lot easier to tell who has an illegal deer in the bed of the truck if all the legal ones had a tag hanging on em.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651658
02/14/16 02:53 PM
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Ive hunted in MANY states that have tags..MANY.
Ive lived in many.

And non huntin wifes get tags, daughters get tags.

They take the silly course ONE YEAR and get the tags every year because it is easy.
Then the husband/father gets extra tags EVERY YEAR and believe me..he fills them. And takes them to the butcher wearing the tags of his wife/daughter, etc.

I still hunt in states with tags..but outlaws will be outlaws no matter what. I have an Illinois lease. WE follow the laws..but a lot of folks sure dont.

Yall are beating a dead horse.

It aint gonna fix a thing. People who break laws..will STILL break the law.

Just like the guns laws dont stop CRIMINALS..they just cause more hassle for legal gun owners. Yall are asking for the same.

Unless youve experienced the "tag system" your just being theoretical. In REALITY..OUTLAWS will find ways to be OUTLAWS. Next thing you know yall will want "check in Stations"...what a freakin hassle that is!
Man..if you havent actually used tags or check ins..then no offense..but you dont know what youre talking about.

Your talking about an "IDEA" with unrealistic expectations. Reality is quite different. If they are breaking the law NOW..you think a silly "TAG" system will stop em???? REALLY?

SMDH.. slap


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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651663
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By the way..Ive known people who "tagged" their deer, then lose the tag BOTH dragging it out OR while transporting it and get fined. Honest folks, and they got fined!
Ive lost tags dragging damn deer myself! Then had to go back looking for the damn thing in the dark for an hour. Really..yall. are being silly.
I dont know why so many of you feel you have to FORCE the changes you want on everyone else that DONT want them. Kinda like a bunch of dang big government democrats to me. I dont need more Govt involvement in ANYTHING these freakin days.

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Re: Once we get tags... [Re: Remington270] #1651666
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I'd pay 100$ a year to get the laws we have enforced. But what folks don't get Its already a fine line before we are just like Europe. Hell we have a very huntable population of bear at my house you think the state knows anything about that. To them ain't no bear in bama that's what y'all should be asking for tags for. Not deer. Deer should be fun and if you have a bumper crop of deer and fill up the freezer who am I to say no

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: ] #1651667
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Ive hunted in MANY states that have tags..MANY.
Ive lived in many.

And non huntin wifes get tags, daughters get tags.

They take the silly course and get the tags because it is easy.
Then the husband/father gets extra tags and believe me..he fills them.
I still hunt in states with tags..but outlaws will be outlaws no matter what. I have an Illinois lease. WE follow the laws..but a lot of folks sure dont.

Yall are beating a dead horse.

It aint gonna fix a thing. People who break laws..will STILL break the law.

Just like the guns laws dont stop CRIMINALS..they just cause more hassle for legal gun owners. Yall are asking for the same.

Unless youve experienced the "tag system" your just being theoretical. In REALITY..OUTLAWS will find ways to be OUTLAWS. Next thing you know yall will want "check in Stations"...what a freakin hassle that is!
Man..if you havent actually used tags or check ins..then no offense..but you dont know what youre talking about.

Your talking about an "IDEA" with unrealistic expectations. Reality is quite different. If they are breaking the law NOW..you think a silly "TAG" system will stop em???? REALLY?

SMDH.. slap



May be just my experience but the tag cheating seems to be worse in the Northeast. Even when I was out West most of the tag cheaters where from the Northeast. May have just been a coincidence.

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by the way.. a lot of folks will use the tag..then file for a LOST tag..and for $5.00...another tag.

What do yall think youre solving???????

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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Ive hunted in MANY states that have tags..MANY.
Ive lived in many.

And non huntin wifes get tags, daughters get tags.

They take the silly course and get the tags because it is easy.
Then the husband/father gets extra tags and believe me..he fills them.
I still hunt in states with tags..but outlaws will be outlaws no matter what. I have an Illinois lease. WE follow the laws..but a lot of folks sure dont.

Yall are beating a dead horse.

It aint gonna fix a thing. People who break laws..will STILL break the law.

Just like the guns laws dont stop CRIMINALS..they just cause more hassle for legal gun owners. Yall are asking for the same.

Unless youve experienced the "tag system" your just being theoretical. In REALITY..OUTLAWS will find ways to be OUTLAWS. Next thing you know yall will want "check in Stations"...what a freakin hassle that is!
Man..if you havent actually used tags or check ins..then no offense..but you dont know what youre talking about.

Your talking about an "IDEA" with unrealistic expectations. Reality is quite different. If they are breaking the law NOW..you think a silly "TAG" system will stop em???? REALLY?

SMDH.. slap



I have hunted in and lived in tag states. You are right that wou cant stop them all, but you can stop a lot of them. The tag systems that work have a number that corresponds to the license holder on them. If you have tags that are in your wifes name (license number) on a deer without her around you are gonna get fined. Even if they used their wife and kids tags they could still only kill the amount that they have tags for. Not the unlimited number they can kill now.
I actually really enjoyed the hunting in the tag states I was in. Tags arent really inconvenient at all. I lived in New Mexico amd Colorado where you have to enter a drawing to hunt and just hope you get picked. That was inconvenient! Tags, not inconvenient at all.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: ] #1651670
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Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Ive hunted in MANY states that have tags..MANY.
Ive lived in many.

And non huntin wifes get tags, daughters get tags.

They take the silly course ONE YEAR and get the tags every year because it is easy.
Then the husband/father gets extra tags EVERY YEAR and believe me..he fills them. And takes them to the butcher wearing the tags of his wife/daughter, etc.

I still hunt in states with tags..but outlaws will be outlaws no matter what. I have an Illinois lease. WE follow the laws..but a lot of folks sure dont.

Yall are beating a dead horse.

It aint gonna fix a thing. People who break laws..will STILL break the law.

Just like the guns laws dont stop CRIMINALS..they just cause more hassle for legal gun owners. Yall are asking for the same.

Unless youve experienced the "tag system" your just being theoretical. In REALITY..OUTLAWS will find ways to be OUTLAWS. Next thing you know yall will want "check in Stations"...what a freakin hassle that is!
Man..if you havent actually used tags or check ins..then no offense..but you dont know what youre talking about.

Your talking about an "IDEA" with unrealistic expectations. Reality is quite different. If they are breaking the law NOW..you think a silly "TAG" system will stop em???? REALLY?

SMDH.. slap

Thank You That's it right there. Next it's a 24 hr check in.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: centralala] #1651671
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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Ive hunted in MANY states that have tags..MANY.
Ive lived in many.

And non huntin wifes get tags, daughters get tags.

They take the silly course and get the tags because it is easy.
Then the husband/father gets extra tags and believe me..he fills them.
I still hunt in states with tags..but outlaws will be outlaws no matter what. I have an Illinois lease. WE follow the laws..but a lot of folks sure dont.

Yall are beating a dead horse.

It aint gonna fix a thing. People who break laws..will STILL break the law.

Just like the guns laws dont stop CRIMINALS..they just cause more hassle for legal gun owners. Yall are asking for the same.

Unless youve experienced the "tag system" your just being theoretical. In REALITY..OUTLAWS will find ways to be OUTLAWS. Next thing you know yall will want "check in Stations"...what a freakin hassle that is!
Man..if you havent actually used tags or check ins..then no offense..but you dont know what youre talking about.

Your talking about an "IDEA" with unrealistic expectations. Reality is quite different. If they are breaking the law NOW..you think a silly "TAG" system will stop em???? REALLY?

SMDH.. slap



May be just my experience but the tag cheating seems to be worse in the Northeast. Even when I was out West most of the tag cheaters where from the Northeast. May have just been a coincidence.


Im talking ABOUT the midwest too.

Re: Once we get tags... [Re: swampcracker] #1651672
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Originally Posted by swampcracker
Originally Posted by outdoorobsession
Ive hunted in MANY states that have tags..MANY.
Ive lived in many.

And non huntin wifes get tags, daughters get tags.

They take the silly course ONE YEAR and get the tags every year because it is easy.
Then the husband/father gets extra tags EVERY YEAR and believe me..he fills them. And takes them to the butcher wearing the tags of his wife/daughter, etc.

I still hunt in states with tags..but outlaws will be outlaws no matter what. I have an Illinois lease. WE follow the laws..but a lot of folks sure dont.

Yall are beating a dead horse.

It aint gonna fix a thing. People who break laws..will STILL break the law.

Just like the guns laws dont stop CRIMINALS..they just cause more hassle for legal gun owners. Yall are asking for the same.

Unless youve experienced the "tag system" your just being theoretical. In REALITY..OUTLAWS will find ways to be OUTLAWS. Next thing you know yall will want "check in Stations"...what a freakin hassle that is!
Man..if you havent actually used tags or check ins..then no offense..but you dont know what youre talking about.

Your talking about an "IDEA" with unrealistic expectations. Reality is quite different. If they are breaking the law NOW..you think a silly "TAG" system will stop em???? REALLY?

SMDH.. slap

Thank You That's it right there. Next it's a 24 hr check in.


Wow..you have no idea. Ive hunted all those state and NEVER..EVER saw a 24 hr check in..hence the hassle!

Where do you think you go? the damn 24 hr Walmart super center?????

No..you go to bait shops, hunting gd stores, etc...little mom and pop places. Many dont open at hours you like. Once again..you dont know a thing about what your talking about..sorry.

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