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Why hate/love gamecheck? #1881941
10/18/16 12:40 PM
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This is a simple question. Why do hate gamecheck? Because you think the government is tracking you through what deer you kill and that's the only way they can do it? Because you're a person that has a problem answering to someone? Or why do you like it? Because you're you too worried about why your neighbors from out of state kill all "your" deer on their property? You want everyone in the state to hunt just how you do and try to hunt the same caliber of deer you like to hunt/kill? What say you? What's your problem with it? Why do you like it?
This is deer minded, no turkey enthusiasts awllowed laugh

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Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882002
10/18/16 01:30 PM
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O.K., I'll play along. Because it will be a pain in the azz.

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882010
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I like it, but fear it won't work. Fences only keep out honest people.


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Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882011
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I'm indifferent about the system. However, I love that everyone will be forced to record their harvest. I love that we will once and for all have known data to make sound decisions.

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882016
10/18/16 01:41 PM
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Because Chuck Sykes got it through backroom deals with high fence folks / cab members, extending the season in North Alabama AGAINST the advice of many state biologists. Not to mention lying to me about extending the season. I get the feeling he's one of those fellers that will pi$$ down your back and tell you it's rainin'.

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Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882032
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Let's see:
- Government force to make you comply or face a penalty
- Another thing to do to satisfy some governmental bureaucrat's experiment
- Government has not exhausted all of the NON-force ways to get as much or better information from voluntary means
- Lack of government educating the citizens on what the minimal information regarding dead deer will provide that will grow ginormous monster whitetails like those in the midwest states!
- the government coming up with another way to trap the citizens into paying penalties
- Did I say that government is involved and is just all giddy that they can force a compliant citizenry or they can slam down the boot of government on the citizens when they don't comply??


"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882036
10/18/16 02:01 PM
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somewhere around 112.
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I like the idea of collecting data for decision making purposes, but just wait till you try to use the app. I hope it works for you. After 5 times of trying, it wouldn't accept my help ID number and date of birth so I called the 800 number. Then I felt so ashamed for our state to have to go through some of those dumb questions. Most folks know the number of their county that corresponds to their vehicle license plates. Why not use that number system?


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Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: 2Dogs] #1882064
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Originally Posted By: 2Dogs
Because Chuck Sykes got it with backroom deals with high fence folks / cab members, extending the season in North Alabama AGAINST the advice of many of the state biologists. Not to mention lying to me about extending the season. I get the feeling he's one of those fellers that will pi$$ down your back and tell you it's rainin'.


This


If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.

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Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882065
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If you want to see the effects of governmental use of statistical data, take a look at red snapper regulations in the Gulf of Mexico.............

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882093
10/18/16 02:41 PM
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My main despise for it is based off of the fact that this is being forced on hunters under the assumption that the government can manage the state's resources more efficiently than landowners, lessees, and just hunters in general. This has been proven to be flawed logic time and time again throughout history that the government is capable to manage anything.

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Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882216
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Because it's horsechit


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Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: crenshawco] #1882232
10/18/16 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
My main despise for it is based off of the fact that this is being forced on hunters under the assumption that the government can manage the state's resources more efficiently than landowners, lessees, and just hunters in general. This has been proven to be flawed logic time and time again throughout history that the government is capable to manage anything.


This was happening without game check.

How would y'all like your doctor diagnosing and giving you prescriptions without taking your temperature or running any test? Sounds stupid doesn't it.

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Rebelman] #1882239
10/18/16 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman

Originally Posted By: crenshawco
My main despise for it is based off of the fact that this is being forced on hunters under the assumption that the government can manage the state's resources more efficiently than landowners, lessees, and just hunters in general. This has been proven to be flawed logic time and time again throughout history that the government is capable to manage anything.


This was happening without game check.

How would y'all like your doctor diagnosing and giving you prescriptions without taking your temperature or running any test? Sounds stupid doesn't it.


Poor analogy. One is qualified to make decisions, one is good ol boy politics. I hope you're smart enough to see which is which

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Fun4all] #1882249
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Originally Posted By: Fun4all
Let's see:
- Government force to make you comply or face a penalty
- Another thing to do to satisfy some governmental bureaucrat's experiment
- Government has not exhausted all of the NON-force ways to get as much or better information from voluntary means
- Lack of government educating the citizens on what the minimal information regarding dead deer will provide that will grow ginormous monster whitetails like those in the midwest states!
- the government coming up with another way to trap the citizens into paying penalties
- Did I say that government is involved and is just all giddy that they can force a compliant citizenry or they can slam down the boot of government on the citizens when they don't comply??


I approve this message

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882256
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It isn't not a poor analogy. It is exactly the situation. He is the Director for a reason. If he does a poor job, he'll be fired.

Where is the politics in game check? Y'all are full of chit. It is 2016. Finally Alabama is making a move in the right direction. Data is the first step. Or I suppose we could continue the riding the pendulum and never has long term success.

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Rebelman] #1882260
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman
It isn't not a poor analogy. It is exactly the situation. He is the Director for a reason. If he does a poor job, he'll be fired.

Where is the politics in game check? Y'all are full of chit. It is 2016. Finally Alabama is making a move in the right direction. Data is the first step. Or I suppose we could continue the riding the pendulum and never has long term success.


Really, who elected Sykes and who will have him fired? What about the rest of the CAB? It's crooked politicians again, and it's all about the money. You're being DUPED!

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Rebelman] #1882261
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Originally Posted By: Rebelman
It isn't not a poor analogy. It is exactly the situation. He is the Director for a reason. If he does a poor job, he'll be fired.

Where is the politics in game check? Y'all are full of chit. It is 2016. Finally Alabama is making a move in the right direction. Data is the first step. Or I suppose we could continue the riding the pendulum and never has long term success.


The point some folks, including me, are trying to make is that the data can be collected more easily without inconveniencing every hunter in the state using valid statistical methods. How are you not seeing this? Billion dollar decisions are made using such methods.

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: Bamabucks14] #1882262
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So far it better than the tagging system used in other states. Ie oregon Idaho and montana have a special paper tag that must be notched and attached prior to moving the animal. Oh and if it's a trophy the tag has too remain attached to the horn/antlers for eternity.

Re: Why hate/love gamecheck? [Re: rothirsch] #1882265
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Originally Posted By: rothirsch
So far it better than the tagging system used in other states. Ie oregon Idaho and montana have a special paper tag that must be notched and attached prior to moving the animal. Oh and if it's a trophy the tag has too remain attached to the horn/antlers for eternity.


So, we should be happy because our system isn't as bad as others' (yet). Ok.

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