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308 175vs180 #1887864
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The other thread has me concerned about shooting a deer with Seirra Matchking 175gr from a 308WIN. My gun shoots GREAT with 175SMK+ 43.5varget, consistently way way out there. Tried four different loads today with 165sst without good accuracy. The Gameking is not made in 175 like the SMK---180 instead. Should the 180Gameking be accurate and virtually same POI as the 175SMK (taking into consideration mild velocity decrease with 180)?

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I dropped back to the 150 Ballistic Tips, they shoot exceptionally well with 50gr of CFE 223, or 46gr of Varget. 165 SST shot good to but they don't seem to perform on deer like the ballistic tips.


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Re: 308 175vs180 [Re: cullbuck] #1887939
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Please don't use SMK's on deer.


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Maybe a better question: SMK&SGK --are they the exact same external bullet design (same ogive angles, same boat tail angle/length) except different tip? I get the internal differences with jacket thickness, etc., which makes them better on game animals

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Exactly same? Nope. Would a deer notice? Nope.


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Re: 308 175vs180 [Re: cullbuck] #1887989
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Just curious, but why are you wanting to go so heavy for deer?


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Re: 308 175vs180 [Re: cullbuck] #1888011
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My m700 shoots well out to 900-1000yards at steel with the 175SMK. Small AL deer as well as 100lb antelope--I'd shoot with any 308, 130grain monolithic on up. Just have an accurate load with lots of data with 175SMK/Varget.

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the average shot is under 200 yds, do you think you will be shooting deer at 900 yards? Probably not likely, so I would go with a good reputable bullet that is designed for deer, sst , ballistic tips, accubonds, TTSX, all shoots as good as match kings and amax through my gun, but even if I saw a deer at 900 I wouldn't take that shot . About 500 is my limit with 308, but have only made skill at 420. I have shot multiple targets out to 1000 also.


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Originally Posted By: Reloader79
the average shot is under 200 yds, do you think you will be shooting deer at 900 yards? Probably not likely, so I would go with a good reputable bullet that is designed for deer, sst , ballistic tips, accubonds, TTSX, all shoots as good as match kings and amax through my gun, but even if I saw a deer at 900 I wouldn't take that shot . About 500 is my limit with 308, but have only made skill at 420. I have shot multiple targets out to 1000 also.


No. just have a lot of consistency way out there at targets. Again, tried a few other bullets without the SMK accuracy in my gun. Just asking SMK vs SGK comparison.

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Match kings are for match, game kings are hunting bullets, it's that simple you are trying to over complicate the scenarios. The game king will do anything on deer sized game in a 308 that needs to be done. Best thing to do would be shoot the game kings in your gun if you want the true results that only the gun can tell you.


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thanks fellas for all the responses.

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What rifle are you shooting? My 700 varmint likes 165's and my model 600 likes 150 gr ammo.


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