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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: bamamed1]
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02/18/17 10:58 AM
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Try it both ways.Yeah i know that sounds smartalec as response but it depends on your chamber.brass.etc.
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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: bamamed1]
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02/18/17 02:38 PM
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257wbymag
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Should keep your groups very tight by neck sizing only and longer brass life. I got my 280 AI dialed in on 56.5 gr RL 17 just at 3200 fps with the 145 LRX yesterday. What puzzled me was better groups using Barnes fire formed brass than Norma fire formed brass. Go figure
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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: bamamed1]
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02/18/17 02:43 PM
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The necksize only does increase case life,but FL ensures reliability. Remember all brass is not uniform in size.Personally i full length size
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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: bamamed1]
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02/18/17 03:08 PM
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I full length size for first use to insure proper fit and fire forming does the rest then I neck size from then on
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: deadeye48]
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02/18/17 07:04 PM
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I full length size for first use to insure proper fit and fire forming does the rest then I neck size from then on ^^^^ This
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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: bamamed1]
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02/19/17 02:14 AM
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riflenut
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I use a headspacing gauge and measure the length of the fired case. I then set my full length sizer to only bump the shoulder .001-.002"s.
For you guys that aren't bumping the shoulder. Are you using a dedicated neck sizer or simply not screwing your full length sizer in all the way?
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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: bamamed1]
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02/20/17 06:48 AM
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145 lrx 56.5 grains imr 4350. Velocity was 3100 fps out of a 22 inch barrel and 3 shot group essentially all went through the same hole on 2 separate occasions. So I would prefer to keep getting those same results. My guess would be that your accuracy will be the same but you'll gain somewhere around 50 fps in velocity. That's what usually happens for me.
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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: bamamed1]
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02/21/17 10:30 AM
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on your new brass did you check its neck size,too your bullet,was the brass 1 or 2 thousand smaller. your dies,when you resize your brass are they the same as the new brass,give or take.you want the neck tension close for ea round to match up to what you like to start with.
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Re: Neck Sizing Question
[Re: bamamed1]
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02/23/17 10:27 AM
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I've never done anything except neck size my .308 ammo after the initial firing with new brass. There is a very noticeable improvement in group size after reloading them and neck sizing. I never thought of checking for a velocity difference; interesting that some have noticed that. Btw, neck sizing with a dedicated die works best in a bolt action that allows you to put some force on the round as you chamber it.
When loading for my Contenders I use a full length sizing die and set it to bump the shoulder. Make even a small mistake and the gun will not completely close and it won't fire.
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