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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
[Re: CVAwolf]
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12/18/17 03:56 PM
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SouthernRoots
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By no means an expert.. but I would assume based on general sexual reproduction that the female would have about half as much to say in terms of antler genetics, assuming antler formation is not a sex linked trait. Could it be that the the genetics from the Does father has more to do with it? Like male patterned baldness?????? Just spit balling. You would think there would be some pretty good information out there as much deer farming is going on.
Last edited by SouthernRoots; 12/18/17 03:56 PM.
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/18/17 05:08 PM
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sgtred
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What does "area law" have to do do with taking deer
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/18/17 05:14 PM
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sgtred...Like an area where you can only shoot say 4+ pts on one side..
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/18/17 05:15 PM
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What does "area law" have to do do with taking deer I assumed he meant some of the WMAs that have Point restrictions.
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/18/17 06:10 PM
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sgtred
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Deer farmers are beginning to believe the doe is more important in the genetic equation, but they don't breed any trashy bucks to them either.they say that certain does have hellacious bucks no matter which one breed her with
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/19/17 06:11 AM
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Antler genetics is not very understood, especially in freerange environments. There is so much variation i wouldn't be too concerned with the few mature bucks with less quality antlers changing the overall herd genetics. It's not possible due to the vast amounts of gene transfer occurring each breeding season from dispersing bucks.
Thinking those bucks will breed with the same does each year isn't likely either. Herd dynamics change so much from one season to the next that's not going to be a problem.
Deer populations are constantly changing, almost daily, from other forms of natural mortality we usually don't even consider. ^^^ this squares with everything i read on the subject about 3-4 years ago when i kept seeing "wonky" racks (ie great on one side, goofed up/weird on the other) ... i personally took the stance of culling those wonky bucks after 2+ years of seeing them regularly on stand ...
ALDeer physics: for every opinion, there's an equal & opposite opinion
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/19/17 06:23 AM
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I've heard deer, game dog, and game chicken breeders all say, they felt like the female gentics had more to do with the outcome of the young. That aint very scientific. But that has to be something their for theses different people to have the same idea.
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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If you think you me and hunters can manage the genetics then you have been watching way too much outdoor channel. Try spitting in the ocean and measuring the affects, its about the same thing. Just shoot old mature deer and forget about the rack its what we do and we just know what works for us.
We Just Know What Works For Us
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/19/17 08:41 AM
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If you think you me and hunters can manage the genetics then you have been watching way too much outdoor channel. Try spitting in the ocean and measuring the affects, its about the same thing. Just shoot old mature deer and forget about the rack its what we do and we just know what works for us. Truly unbelievable. Whild Bill has the most rational post in a thread.
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/19/17 08:46 AM
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If you think you me and hunters can manage the genetics then you have been watching way too much outdoor channel. Try spitting in the ocean and measuring the affects, its about the same thing. Just shoot old mature deer and forget about the rack its what we do and we just know what works for us. Truly unbelievable. Whild Bill has the most rational post in a thread. the end is in sight.....
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/19/17 08:52 AM
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Truly unbelievable. Whild Bill has the most rational post in a thread. must've taken his medicine today
ALDeer physics: for every opinion, there's an equal & opposite opinion
A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.
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Re: Managing deer/genetics question?
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12/19/17 09:24 AM
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