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Re: Rinella
[Re: BatesConst]
#2710314
01/18/19 01:44 PM
01/18/19 01:44 PM
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Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,126 KY
AUstan23
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Another jew doing jew things
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: Rinella
[Re: BatesConst]
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01/18/19 01:54 PM
01/18/19 01:54 PM
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1bamashooter
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I enjoy his books and the show but he comes off as leaning way to the left.
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Re: Rinella
[Re: BatesConst]
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01/18/19 02:02 PM
01/18/19 02:02 PM
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Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 21,346 Northport, AL
GomerPyle
Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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If you listen to him speak, he's pretty clear that he doesn't identify with either party, politically. There are things he agrees and disagrees on, with both parties. However, one of his biggest causes is public lands, and access to them. And lets be realistic, the Republican party, in general, isn't as protective of them as the Democratic party is. If the Republican party had their way, man of these lands would not be open to the public. They'd either be sold off, of they'd be given over to the states to do with as the states saw fit. Many state constitutions don't allow for operating at a deficit and if they're are faced with such, they're required to liquidate assets to make up for that deficit. Goodbye public lands if that happens.
Rinella is openly pro-2a, for obvious reasons, but he's also a hardcore advocate for public lands. My guess (and that's all it is) is that when push comes to shove and it comes time to vote, he's probably going to vote for the public land guy because (again this is a guess) he likely views public lands as more endangered than gun rights at this point in time.
I don't necessarily agree with that viewpoint (assuming it's even an accurate assessment of his beliefs), but I can at least understand why he might think that way.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Rinella
[Re: GomerPyle]
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01/18/19 03:06 PM
01/18/19 03:06 PM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,638 SE Alabama
ChrisAU
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If you listen to him speak, he's pretty clear that he doesn't identify with either party, politically. There are things he agrees and disagrees on, with both parties. However, one of his biggest causes is public lands, and access to them. And lets be realistic, the Republican party, in general, isn't as protective of them as the Democratic party is. If the Republican party had their way, man of these lands would not be open to the public. They'd either be sold off, of they'd be given over to the states to do with as the states saw fit. Many state constitutions don't allow for operating at a deficit and if they're are faced with such, they're required to liquidate assets to make up for that deficit. Goodbye public lands if that happens.
Rinella is openly pro-2a, for obvious reasons, but he's also a hardcore advocate for public lands. My guess (and that's all it is) is that when push comes to shove and it comes time to vote, he's probably going to vote for the public land guy because (again this is a guess) he likely views public lands as more endangered than gun rights at this point in time.
I don't necessarily agree with that viewpoint (assuming it's even an accurate assessment of his beliefs), but I can at least understand why he might think that way.
Well said.
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Re: Rinella
[Re: GomerPyle]
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01/18/19 03:09 PM
01/18/19 03:09 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 20,298 North AL
AU338MAG
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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If you listen to him speak, he's pretty clear that he doesn't identify with either party, politically. There are things he agrees and disagrees on, with both parties. However, one of his biggest causes is public lands, and access to them. And lets be realistic, the Republican party, in general, isn't as protective of them as the Democratic party is. If the Republican party had their way, man of these lands would not be open to the public. They'd either be sold off, of they'd be given over to the states to do with as the states saw fit. Many state constitutions don't allow for operating at a deficit and if they're are faced with such, they're required to liquidate assets to make up for that deficit. Goodbye public lands if that happens.
Rinella is openly pro-2a, for obvious reasons, but he's also a hardcore advocate for public lands. My guess (and that's all it is) is that when push comes to shove and it comes time to vote, he's probably going to vote for the public land guy because (again this is a guess) he likely views public lands as more endangered than gun rights at this point in time.
I don't necessarily agree with that viewpoint (assuming it's even an accurate assessment of his beliefs), but I can at least understand why he might think that way.
Folks out west have a very different view of public lands than we do here in Alabama. It's much more complicated and we here take for granted the access we have to public lands and water. I don't know all of the reasons but like Gomer said, if this land is turned over to the states it will be lost before long and bought by timber and development companies from the states. I'm damn sure I'm against that happening.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Rinella
[Re: Stob]
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01/18/19 03:30 PM
01/18/19 03:30 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,130 Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
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Round ‘bout there
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I support Rinella but I will not support a left leaning, anti 2A organization. OK, so how (not specifically you, Stob) does someone do this given the involvement? Can someone still "support" Rinella and his show when it is owned by an anti-gun Democrat who also speaks out against some parts of hunting? Whose show has a guy who with his previous job (Yeti) supposedly was the one to scuttle the NRA deal, and then called them names? "I like the show, but don't like some of the people." Those people funding the show want to crush your Second Amendment rights. RIGHTS, not privileges. Similarities? "I like this organization that fights for public lands and says it's not political, but know it has accepted money from anti-gun and anti-hunting groups. It's just part of trying to rebuff the bad people." "I love their music but know they're liberals. I enjoyed that movie but he's an anti-gun nut. I read that website/newspaper/magazine but their owners are liberals." Can you support and enjoy Rinella's show knowing full well one of his biggest liberal investors-owners wants to harm your 2A rights and has decried "trophy" hunting?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Re: Rinella
[Re: Clem]
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01/18/19 03:35 PM
01/18/19 03:35 PM
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Posts: 4,982 Owens Cross Roads
mcninja
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I support Rinella but I will not support a left leaning, anti 2A organization. OK, so how (not specifically you, Stob) does someone do this given the involvement? Can someone still "support" Rinella and his show when it is owned by an anti-gun Democrat who also speaks out against some parts of hunting? Whose show has a guy who with his previous job (Yeti) supposedly was the one to scuttle the NRA deal, and then called them names? "I like the show, but don't like some of the people." Those people funding the show want to crush your Second Amendment rights. RIGHTS, not privileges. Similarities? "I like this organization that fights for public lands and says it's not political, but know it has accepted money from anti-gun and anti-hunting groups. It's just part of trying to rebuff the bad people." "I love their music but know they're liberals. I enjoyed that movie but he's an anti-gun nut. I read that website/newspaper/magazine but their owners are liberals." Can you support and enjoy Rinella's show knowing full well one of his biggest liberal investors-owners wants to harm your 2A rights and has decried "trophy" hunting? Heeeeyyyyy now get onouttahere with that sense - I mean nonsense!!! 
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Re: Rinella
[Re: Clem]
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01/18/19 03:38 PM
01/18/19 03:38 PM
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Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 3,546 Mobile, AL
soalaturkeys
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I support Rinella but I will not support a left leaning, anti 2A organization. Can you support and enjoy Rinella's show knowing full well one of his biggest liberal investors-owners wants to harm your 2A rights and has decried "trophy" hunting? No! I have spoken highly of Rinella and his show to people one-on-one and on this forum. I really like his work, very very much. His has peed in his own chili as far as I am concerned. Screw. Him. Y'all can soft pedal all this all you want and talk about public lands, what you THINK Rinella thinks, blah blah blah but I say if a guy owns the franchise who has said some of the chit he has said....Screw. Him. Makes me livid.
"For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America" ~Benjamin Franklin
Isaiah 40:13-14
RAP is CRAP
NRA Life Member, GOA, BamaCarry Member
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Re: Rinella
[Re: soalaturkeys]
#2710420
01/18/19 03:45 PM
01/18/19 03:45 PM
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Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,638 SE Alabama
ChrisAU
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I support Rinella but I will not support a left leaning, anti 2A organization. Can you support and enjoy Rinella's show knowing full well one of his biggest liberal investors-owners wants to harm your 2A rights and has decried "trophy" hunting? No! I have spoken highly of Rinella and his show to people one-on-one and on this forum. I really like his work, very very much. His has peed in his own chili as far as I am concerned. Screw. Him. Y'all can soft pedal all this all you want and talk about public lands, what you THINK Rinella thinks, blah blah blah but I say if a guy owns the franchise who has said some of the chit he has said....Screw. Him. Makes me livid. I'm sure you would never sell anything to a liberal, or work at just about any large corporation because most all have some liberal ownership somewhere.
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Re: Rinella
[Re: ChrisAU]
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01/18/19 03:51 PM
01/18/19 03:51 PM
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Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 91 Birmingham, AL
IsaacMcCaslin
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I support Rinella but I will not support a left leaning, anti 2A organization. Can you support and enjoy Rinella's show knowing full well one of his biggest liberal investors-owners wants to harm your 2A rights and has decried "trophy" hunting? No! I have spoken highly of Rinella and his show to people one-on-one and on this forum. I really like his work, very very much. His has peed in his own chili as far as I am concerned. Screw. Him. Y'all can soft pedal all this all you want and talk about public lands, what you THINK Rinella thinks, blah blah blah but I say if a guy owns the franchise who has said some of the chit he has said....Screw. Him. Makes me livid. I'm sure you would never sell anything to a liberal, or work at just about any large corporation because most all have some liberal ownership somewhere. No kidding. Good luck avoiding everything that isn't in some way owned by a liberal.
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Re: Rinella
[Re: IsaacMcCaslin]
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01/18/19 04:12 PM
01/18/19 04:12 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,130 Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,130
Round ‘bout there
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If you listen closely to Steve Rinella, he's not very conservative, or, as far as I can tell openly Christian (He talks about Gods, and cosmos, and the afterlife, but never any specifics). I still like the guy.
Is it wrong to listen to folks with view points that differ from our own? Last time I checked this was called being well-rounded and open-minded. I frequently listen to people with which I strongly disagree.
No kidding. Good luck avoiding everything that isn't in some way owned by a liberal.
Thus the question for many with situations like this about Rinella, just for one example. Some will say it's one of those "hold your nose" things and others will say "Nope, no way, screw them forever." I enjoy the Rolling Stones. Love listening to Foo Fighters. Green Day's "American Idiot" is pretty stout. Merle Haggard, super. They're all liberals. Probably are anti-gun. Do you stop listening-reading-watching everything or pick the battles you can fight best in?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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