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Echo Chamber #3041160
02/13/20 03:00 PM
02/13/20 03:00 PM
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NSDQ160 Offline OP
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My dad and I are having more political discussions which irritate the crap out of me honestly because he hates republicans just because he was taught to hate republicans. For the record he voted for Trump and will vote for Trump again but eats up what the media says about him he just can't bring himself to vote for a Buttigeig, Sanders, Warren, etc.

He was talking about how in Alabama, Texas, etc that we're all in an echo chamber and there's a lot of people in the country who don't agree with our opinion. Now I concede that Aldeer isn't the place to ask this question because I don't think I've ever read anything on here from one democrat leaning individual.

Are we in that much of an echo chamber or are the population centers in Illinois, NY and Cali the echo chambers? I pulled up that county map from the 2016 election and showed him that to attempt to prove my point that even though Trump lost the popular vote it's just those big cities that feel the way the media does. Literally no one else in this country feels that way.

Also I feel like the way the democrats have been exposed lately by Trump that their own party is losing members. What say you Aldeer?

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041169
02/13/20 03:08 PM
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I know after i went to Atlanta, Nashville and Memfrica last year that i indeed do live in a bubble. Their "norm" ain't the "norm" in your hometown of hartselle.


The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041174
02/13/20 03:09 PM
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There isnt a norm, this election is America vs Socialism.


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041177
02/13/20 03:10 PM
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I think no matter how crazy or tame the Democratic nominee is they’ll still approach, if not surpass, 50% of the popular vote. It is largely an urban vs rural thing, but that won’t stop states like Alabama from having less than a 10% margin of victory for Trump in November. It’s closer than you think, even just outside your echo chamber.
And yeah, Aldeer is absurdly biased, and not reflective of any electorate...even in rural Alabama there are Democrats around every corner.

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041179
02/13/20 03:14 PM
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It must be a huge echo camber.

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041194
02/13/20 03:34 PM
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Due to my work history I traveled all over the US. I have good friends WA, CA, WI, ME, AX, NC, PA and others. I spent lots of time in offices in those states and a majority of the people have the same ideals as we do. I don’t believe for one minute we are an echo chamber.

The issue we face is the Demoncrats absolutely kick our butts at coming together to support 1 person and getting to the polls. Us Republicans can’t or rather won’t do that. When we lose elections by a close margin it’s typically because “I cannot stand that guy, even if he’s a republican so I’m not voting”. Democrats historically rally around the primary winner. However, they have a lot of issues this go around so I’m curious to see what happens.

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: Ike McCaslin] #3041221
02/13/20 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike McCaslin
..even in rural Alabama there are Democrats around every corner.


Because in most places around here, you don't have snowballs chance in hell of getting elected without (D) next to your name

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041225
02/13/20 04:01 PM
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Almost every blue county on that map in Alabama and Mississippi is a phenomenal deer hunting county....

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041278
02/13/20 05:07 PM
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In my opinion it is a CITY DWELLER versus COUNTRY DWELLER thing. Just look at that map. The red areas are rural, the blue are population density areas, cities.

Country people tend to be much more self dependent and not have the need for big government. Many even grow their own vegetables, shoot their own meat. They don't depend on the Government for transportation, etc. They don't think meat all comes from the grocery store. The majority have guns in their houses, for both hunting and home defense. They do not like big government.

City dwellers depend on public transportation and other government services much more. The depend on all their food from the local grocery store. They do not like guns and are scared of them. They NEED big Government.

That map reflects that pretty well in most of those states.

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041298
02/13/20 05:27 PM
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LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
- - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041420
02/13/20 07:35 PM
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Oklahoma got it right. Not a single blue county.



Get the F out of the BATFE. The F is guaranteed by the US Constitution. Those other letters are not.


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Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041464
02/13/20 08:09 PM
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Even the “Red” counties have plenty Democrats. There may be fewer blue ones, but it doesn’t change the total number of bodies on either side. If they show up at the polls, Democrats win the popular vote. The next 10 years of kids coming of age will tilt it way the hell further in their direction. The type of people that prefer to live in the densely populated urban areas have basically inadvertently gerrymandered the map to their own detriment. The electoral college may well get us another Trump term, but the closeness of the race will be absurd given the prolific economy and obvious domestic and foreign policy accomplishments for an incumbent. Soft people bring hard times, and whether you are one or not, you’re definitely outnumbered by them. The US may string together some more good years, but the cycle will repeat

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041482
02/13/20 08:26 PM
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Why is there a blue streak across alabama?

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: jwalker77] #3041509
02/13/20 08:41 PM
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Soil profile

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3041534
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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Oklahoma got it right. Not a single blue county.


Looks like WV and AK did as well.

Factoid: Prior to Obama in '08 Jackson County Alabama hadn't voted Republican in over 100 years. Hadn't even had a local Republican candidate be elected either. Now it's almost impossible to get elected with a D by your name. See, Obama did do some good things.



"Why do you ask"?

Always vote the slowest path to socialism.







Re: Echo Chamber [Re: jwalker77] #3041559
02/13/20 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Why is there a blue streak across alabama?


Montgomery, Birmingham, Tuscaloosa, Auburn


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Echo Chamber [Re: Ike McCaslin] #3041602
02/13/20 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike McCaslin
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Black belt?

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: NSDQ160] #3041612
02/13/20 09:35 PM
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Ike McCaslin Offline
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Democrats love smectitic clay.

Re: Echo Chamber [Re: jwalker77] #3041627
02/13/20 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by Ike McCaslin
Soil profile

Black belt?


Yes, that is the Blackbelt and is a predominately African American population, which explains the voting for Democrats.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: Echo Chamber [Re: jwalker77] #3041806
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Why is there a blue streak across alabama?

Originally Posted by jwalker77
Why is there a blue streak across alabama?


Because there are a lot of Democrats in those areas.


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