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Loaded my first shell...
#3097426
04/12/20 04:28 PM
04/12/20 04:28 PM
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CKyleC
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I just put together my first shotgun shell using Hals Big 20xl load. It loaded and fired like it should and threw a good pattern.
Now for a few questions....
Those of you that use this load, do you trim the hull?
Is there a certain rpm that causes the roll crimper to perform better?
How important is the roll crimp concerning pattern consistency from shot to shot?
Should the shot and buffer be completely below the top, even with, or above the top of wad?
Have you seen a difference in performance with cork or felt?
What is your method to ensure an even a "pretty" roll crimp?
Thanks for the help!
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/12/20 04:57 PM
04/12/20 04:57 PM
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poorcountrypreacher
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I just put together my first shotgun shell using Hals Big 20xl load. It loaded and fired like it should and threw a good pattern.
Now for a few questions....
Those of you that use this load, do you trim the hull?
If you use a 3" hull and one of the red seals, you don't trim it. If you don't use the seal, you will need to trim 1/4".
Is there a certain rpm that causes the roll crimper to perform better?
I think the slower, the better.
How important is the roll crimp concerning pattern consistency from shot to shot?
Not very.
Should the shot and buffer be completely below the top, even with, or above the top of wad?
I like it even.
Have you seen a difference in performance with cork or felt?
Dangerous sounding question. They are not interchangeable. You gotta follow the recipe, whichever it says.
What is your method to ensure an even a "pretty" roll crimp?
I use a stop on the drill press to take the variables out of it. Good luck!
Thanks for the help!
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/12/20 05:00 PM
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CKyleC
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Thanks fr the help!!
Does changing from cork to felt, or vice versa, change pressures?
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/12/20 07:28 PM
04/12/20 07:28 PM
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poorcountrypreacher
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Thanks fr the help!!
Does changing from cork to felt, or vice versa, change pressures? Yes, it can. I've read of instances where it changed it a significant amount. It's probably not gonna damage anything because there is a safety factor with tested loads, and if you got it from Hal it's been tested. But there is no reason to shoot an over pressure load when you can do it right. Just follow the recipe and you will be ok. I like pretty crimps, but the appearance doesn't affect how it shoots.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/12/20 07:30 PM
04/12/20 07:30 PM
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CKyleC
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Ok. Thanks. Hal's recipe says I can use felt instead of cork. When I ordered supplies everyone was out of cork
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/12/20 07:49 PM
04/12/20 07:49 PM
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Chelsea
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You might want to confirm that
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/12/20 08:10 PM
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Read it multiple times. I'm using the same size felt as cork.... 1/8 and 1/4
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/12/20 08:15 PM
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CKyleC
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Just read it again to make sure. Specifically says if out of stock, use felt instead
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/12/20 08:24 PM
04/12/20 08:24 PM
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N. Bama
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I use cork and felt in mine. Both 1/8” pieces.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty
I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/13/20 05:46 AM
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CKyleC
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Thanks guys.
Now to get that roll crimp looking like I want it.....
Oh yeah, and the shot trap finished up
Last edited by CKyleC; 04/13/20 05:47 AM.
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
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04/14/20 03:42 PM
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If you want a pretty roll crimp trim your hulls and use a GAPE roll crimp. GAPE makes some fine hand loading tools that have been worth every penny I’ve spent on them. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/2L7ncd9v/5-EF1991-E-4773-404-F-8989-36-BCB191-A7-A7.jpg)
Last edited by Squeaky; 04/14/20 03:44 PM.
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/14/20 06:42 PM
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CKyleC
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Y'all are shaming me with the crimp pics
"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
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Re: Loaded my first shell...
[Re: CKyleC]
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04/14/20 09:19 PM
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leeds,al
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Y'all are shaming me with the crimp pics I load the 20 gauge shells, look awesome, my 12 look like a rat chewed them
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