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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: jwalker77]
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08/06/20 07:11 AM
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R_H_Clark
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I think most of the people on here are looking at the documents(whether they be real or not) that say the man died of an overdose, and say he was not choked to death and have decided maybe the professionals who went to college several years to do the job they are doing might just know what they are talking about. I think you are only looking at the toxicology report and completely ignoring the fact that the cop choked him until he was dead.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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08/06/20 09:07 AM
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I think most of the people on here are looking at the documents(whether they be real or not) that say the man died of an overdose, and say he was not choked to death and have decided maybe the professionals who went to college several years to do the job they are doing might just know what they are talking about. I think you are only looking at the toxicology report and completely ignoring the fact that the cop choked him until he was dead. The autopsy preformed by the state showed asphyxiation was not the cause of death. I dont think someone can choke and talk or breath at the same time
Last edited by Ben2; 08/06/20 09:09 AM.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: Beer Belly]
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08/06/20 09:11 AM
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Ben I’ve been saying this the whole time
How do you talk/yell for mommy if you’re being choked
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: deadeye48]
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08/06/20 09:15 AM
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Ben I’ve been saying this the whole time
How do you talk/yell for mommy if you’re being choked Surely no one thinks he was choked to death seriously. I can see with enough pressure to thebside of the neck you can make someone pass out but can do it in a few seconds not minutes but in no way are you choking aomeone.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: Beer Belly]
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08/06/20 10:21 AM
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Basic life support will tell you if someone appears to be choking you ask them if they are choking. If they can reply then their airway is secure enough to not need life saving intervention.
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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08/06/20 10:47 AM
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
 Yep, it had to be GF's fault with him being an African American and all.
Killing my neighbors deer since 1982
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: eclipse829]
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08/06/20 11:14 AM
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
 Yep, it had to be GF's fault with him being an African American and all. Thanks buddy. I've wasted enough time on the subject but I do want to make it clear that I would also never think that even murder is a justification for the senseless violence and hate that has driven so many for so long over this issue.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: eclipse829]
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08/06/20 11:18 AM
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
 Yep, it had to be GF's fault with him being an African American and all. Not one single person has said that. Could have been a white guy and most would still feel the same b/c he broke the law, resisted police and had recently poured drugs into his body. Only difference is if it were a white guy, we would have never heard about it.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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08/06/20 11:50 AM
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
You are the only person here calling him a worthless pos. I called him a criminal, that is a documented fact. I said he died in the act of committing a crime, that is also a fact. It is what it is. You are arguing with science. You are believing what you see in a video, but I will say again, prove how much pressure the cop is putting on his neck. The scientific evidence says he didnt choke, but you keep saying he did. Why is that? I got the same feeling in my gut that you did when I saw the video. I know why you feel like you do. I just cant understand why you or anyone else dont believe the science. Do you believe the medical examiner is lying for some reason? And yes I had my mind made up, I believed the cop killed him, until the autopsy came out and said he didnt. At that point I said "well I was wrong." It seems to me you are doing exactly what you are accusing others of doing. What would it take to change your mind?
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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08/06/20 11:59 AM
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
You’re just hangry 
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: Beer Belly]
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08/06/20 12:06 PM
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I dont give a crap if he is white, black, half and half, chinese, north korean, south african, austrailian, or a freaking green martian from the planet Zolar. Had he not broken the law, the cops would not have been there and he would be alive (actually he probably would still be dead due to dying from the OD). Had he just sat in the police car after he was first put in, he would be alive. Had he not made the personal decision to take the drugs, he would still be alive.
If he would have been executed years earlier for the armed home invasion and assault on the pregnant woman in Texas, like he should have been, all of this would be a non-issue. I've got no sympathy for any career criminal. Our justice system is a complete joke with regard to how we treat repeat offenders and first timers. "Oh, you robbed that lady, take a month in timeout for that and please do not do it again." "Now look, you've got to behave better, you were just in here last year for armed robbery. I'm going to put you on probation for 6 months, please do not do that again" Now you've gone and done it, you killed that person you were robbing. I know you didnt really mean to do it so we will allow you to plead down to involuntary manslaughter and I'm giving you 10 yrs but with good behavior you can be out in 7." "I know you've only served 6 months of your 10 yr sentence, but we have decided to release you today due to the chance that you might get Covid in prison, please behave yourself and dont kill or rob anyone else once you get home." I, and I honestly think a lot of other Americans, just like me, are absolutely sick and tired of seeing rap sheets on these career criminals that are 2 to 5 pages long spanning a period of 10-50 yrs. Some people are beyond rehabilitation and need to be removed from society and I'm not talking about removal by being put in prison for life with 3 square meals a day paid for by the American taxpayer.
Call my opinion on the matter whatever you like but I dang sure aint a racist. I promise you I feel 100% the same way about all lifelong career criminals, regardless of the color of the skin of the person involved. Black lives matter, blue lives matter, aborted lives matter, all lives matter. Be a productive, hardworking, self supporting, law abidding citizen and you'll have my full repsect and support regardless of your skin color, age, political affiliation, or opinion.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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08/06/20 01:34 PM
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
I’m pretty sure that you are full of chit, or white guilt. Same difference. Not a single person called him a POS. Floyd is dead because of a series of bad decisions. The cops are going to jail because a series of bad decisions.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: Beer Belly]
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08/06/20 01:52 PM
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Yeah, he’s dead because of two bad decisions by two people, or he would still be alive. Both of them are going to pay dearly in their own way.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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08/06/20 02:00 PM
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
Pot meets kettle
“It’s enough to make a man feel sour. Burning minutes every day by the hour. Just to end up gone like everything else.”
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: burbank]
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08/06/20 02:04 PM
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Floyd is dead because of a series of bad decisions. The cops are going to jail because a series of bad decisions.
Best way I have see it described.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: 257wbymag]
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08/06/20 03:23 PM
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R_H_Clark
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
You’re just hangry  Maybe so buddy. Ya'll carry on!
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Re: George Floyd died from an overdose
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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08/06/20 03:56 PM
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Pretty sure Floyd died more from the attitude shared by most here,that he was a worthless POS than anything else. Ya'll can justify whatever you want and keep on the way you think because it's basically a waste of time for anyone to try to tell you anything. In simple terms your mind is made up the way you like it.
I have not seen where anyone justified anything. What is it you are trying to tell people? My mind has not been made up on anything from day 1 on this deal, mainly because we didnt have enough information to make up our minds. Lots on here called the police man a murderer on day 1. Most everyone feels that GF acted inappropriately as did the officer when he knelt on his neck or head. So both acted innapropriately but there is no evidence in anything we have seen that suggests what you have stated which is that the officer choked GF to death.
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