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Blower issue #3661014
04/29/22 09:06 AM
04/29/22 09:06 AM
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One of my echo blowers won't start. It had started on one or two pulls faithfully for 7 years. Only thing I have done is replace spark plug in the past. I always used ethanol free gas but loaned the blower to some family for several months and now it won't start.

When you pull the handle it just never catches. Seems to have good compression.

I replaced spark plug, no effect.

I drained and replaced gas with new non-ethanol gas/oil and replaced carb with new one from china that incudes all new hoses and new air filter, no effect.

I checked and cleaned spark arrestor screen, no effect.

I checked for spark and am seeing a small spark, not very bright but it is there. So I also feel the cutoff switch is working properly.

Could the ignition coil be bad but still create a small spark?

Maybe I just got a bad carb and should try another? I can get a new carb/kit for a little more than a new gasket set for the old carb?

What am I missing?

Thanks for any help. I know I can take in to get serviced but like to try and repair before I give in and take it to the man. Most of what I have done has really only taken about 15-20 min of actual work time.


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661031
04/29/22 09:32 AM
04/29/22 09:32 AM
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Moundville, Al
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May sound like a silly question but does it have a kill switch that may need to be put in the run position? My weed trimmers have these. It’s possible regular gas was ran in it while you loaned it out, or even gas that didn’t have a mix to it. Sounds like a coil to me but I really don’t know if it would have a spark at all when it goes out.

Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661034
04/29/22 09:35 AM
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I’ll put my money on they used ethanol gas in it and the carb is gummed up.



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Re: Blower issue [Re: SuperSpike] #3661037
04/29/22 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperSpike
May sound like a silly question but does it have a kill switch that may need to be put in the run position? My weed trimmers have these. It’s possible regular gas was ran in it while you loaned it out, or even gas that didn’t have a mix to it. Sounds like a coil to me but I really don’t know if it would have a spark at all when it goes out.

It does have a kill switch and it is in the run position. Sometimes that can go bad but I get a spark when switch set to run so it is functional.


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Bustinbeards] #3661038
04/29/22 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bustinbeards
I’ll put my money on they used ethanol gas in it and the carb is gummed up.

Yes, I am pretty sure they did not bother to get ethanol free gas. After I changed the spark plug I thought changing out the carb would solve the issue but not so.


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661058
04/29/22 10:11 AM
04/29/22 10:11 AM
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Does it have the rubber compression bulb that you have to pump prior to starting?

Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661067
04/29/22 10:27 AM
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Most all carbs will run with both high an low screws backed out 1an1/2 turns from bottoming out . Try start few time with choke on. If don t start take out plug. If its wet with gas u have a firing issue. If not wet pour couple oz of gas in spark plug hole. Put plug back in .try start while holding throttle wide open with no choke . If don t start carb not adjusted or diaphram in carb bad . I have used bunch them cheap carbs off ebay with good luck. Most come preset where they will at least start.


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661108
04/29/22 11:54 AM
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Did you try some starting fluid?

I had a Stihl saw that finally wouldn't start and I had to take it in and they replaced some seals in it. Then it ran like a champ until someone stole it.

Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661109
04/29/22 12:00 PM
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This is why I won't have anything with a pull cord.


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661110
04/29/22 12:00 PM
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Buy a new one or a broom.


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661145
04/29/22 01:11 PM
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If the bunch that borrowed it snatched the pull cord, like it was their last pay check, that might be your problem. The key on the crankshaft (that holds the flywheel in place) could be partly broken. Just enough to give you a slight spark, but not enough to crank.

Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661153
04/29/22 01:27 PM
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Could also be the China carb. It’s hit or miss with a Chinese carbs.


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661181
04/29/22 02:44 PM
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Check the air filter. Easiest way is to remove it and try to crank it. If it works, you know you aren’t getting enough air and need to replace the filter.


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661211
04/29/22 03:53 PM
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Sea foam deep creep. Spray a little in the carb throat before cranking


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Re: Blower issue [Re: deadeyesdad] #3661216
04/29/22 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by deadeyesdad
Check the air filter. Easiest way is to remove it and try to crank it. If it works, you know you aren’t getting enough air and need to replace the filter.

Tried w/out air filter before I put new one in-did not help


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Re: Blower issue [Re: GrandSlam] #3661217
04/29/22 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandSlam
If the bunch that borrowed it snatched the pull cord, like it was their last pay check, that might be your problem. The key on the crankshaft (that holds the flywheel in place) could be partly broken. Just enough to give you a slight spark, but not enough to crank.

I had read about that, when I pul on cord it seems like I am getting a full crank on the flywheel. I can check that if I end up pulling out ignition coil to test


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661220
04/29/22 04:11 PM
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My blower hasn't wanted to work since I said I do.

Re: Blower issue [Re: brushwhacker] #3661222
04/29/22 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by brushwhacker
Most all carbs will run with both high an low screws backed out 1an1/2 turns from bottoming out . Try start few time with choke on. If don t start take out plug. If its wet with gas u have a firing issue. If not wet pour couple oz of gas in spark plug hole. Put plug back in .try start while holding throttle wide open with no choke . If don t start carb not adjusted or diaphram in carb bad . I have used bunch them cheap carbs off ebay with good luck. Most come preset where they will at least start.

I will try this when I get home. I just got to New Orleans for a wedding. Think this number 4 I’ve had to attend in the last year!
Staying at the Virgin Hotel-interesting….


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Re: Blower issue [Re: WTPop] #3661225
04/29/22 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WTPop
Does it have the rubber compression bulb that you have to pump prior to starting?

Yes there is a bulb and a new one came with new carb


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Re: Blower issue [Re: Andalusia] #3661284
04/29/22 05:50 PM
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Take it back to who borrowed it, tell them to get it fixed. Hey, it's a thought.

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