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Re: New AU study on hogs and turkeys...
[Re: turkey247]
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08/29/22 11:13 PM
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Frankie
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Glad to see it. But man we are wasting a lot of time and money in replace of common sense.
DGT studies included.
Common sense isn't always true. It can be wrong. There's good research to show that shooting individual hogs makes them more wary and harder to trap. The goal is to get the whole sounder at once. Common sense would say "shoot a hog if you see one". And hog hunting also incentivizes people to move hogs around because people secretly love hunting hogs and they want more of them. Some midwestern states have outlawed hog hunting to remove the incentive to bring them there. Because that's how hogs are moving in many cases. Just now seeing this. I didn’t say I’m a hog hunting, shoot everyone you see advocate. I’m just saying we know they are bad for birds. I also believe, it actually should be common sense that hunting hogs, for the purpose of controlling the population is pointless. Hog hunters like to have good hog populations, period. They want hogs around. Hog hunters, by definition, are hog advocates, end of discussion. Trapping is not “hunting”, obviously. Well there you go it ain't that they can't it's they dont or won't control. they can be controled
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Re: New AU study on hogs and turkeys...
[Re: turkey247]
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08/30/22 06:18 AM
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Ben2
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Summary. Trapping is trapping. Hunting is hunting. Any state allowing hog hunting has no concern for the damage they cause. Sounds like some anti hunting propoganda.
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Re: New AU study on hogs and turkeys...
[Re: Ben2]
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08/30/22 08:11 AM
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turkey247
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Summary. Trapping is trapping. Hunting is hunting. Any state allowing hog hunting has no concern for the damage they cause. Sounds like some anti hunting propoganda. You need to roll that around in your head a little more. You pretty much just proved what I’ve been saying for the sake of a one liner. You want to constrain turkey season and limit harvest. Seems like you trap hogs - and we agree with that plan. Unwanted species vs native species with a hunting heritage that runs deep around here.
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Re: New AU study on hogs and turkeys...
[Re: ronfromramer]
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08/30/22 12:30 PM
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Ol' Skinny
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Had fits with them when I lived in Louisiana, feel so blessed to not have any (YET) here in the Childersburg area where our lease is now. Hoping not too see any when I move over to our new home in the Wilsonville/Columbiana area within the next 2 weeks.
In Louisiana they were so thick that we killed all we could plus paid a guy to set up the remote traps, heard 'em up and kill 'em. We paid him $5.00 a head.... he loved it and made gas money.
John 3:16
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Re: New AU study on hogs and turkeys...
[Re: Ol' Skinny]
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08/30/22 12:53 PM
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Longbeard2
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Had fits with them when I lived in Louisiana, feel so blessed to not have any (YET) here in the Childersburg area where our lease is now. Hoping not too see any when I move over to our new home in the Wilsonville/Columbiana area within the next 2 weeks.
In Louisiana they were so thick that we killed all we could plus paid a guy to set up the remote traps, heard 'em up and kill 'em. We paid him $5.00 a head.... he loved it and made gas money. I live in Louisiana, and they are bad here north of Baton Rouge. I have spent quite a bit of time in that Childersburg/Sylacauga general area on the Pinhoti trail. Beautiful area. I hope you never see a hog there.
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Re: New AU study on hogs and turkeys...
[Re: turkey247]
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08/30/22 02:08 PM
08/30/22 02:08 PM
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Ben2
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Summary. Trapping is trapping. Hunting is hunting. Any state allowing hog hunting has no concern for the damage they cause. Sounds like some anti hunting propoganda. You need to roll that around in your head a little more. You pretty much just proved what I’ve been saying for the sake of a one liner. You want to constrain turkey season and limit harvest. Seems like you trap hogs - and we agree with that plan. Unwanted species vs native species with a hunting heritage that runs deep around here. No sir I want more Turkeys, I want what turkey hunting used to be so the kids growing up now wont have to listen to us say we used to hear 10 turkeys a morning when they only hear 1. I dont beleive I have ever stated I wanted to constrain a season or limit harvest. But I dont whine when they change the season dates and claim they stole days from me. I am for whatever actually helps turkey populations and am open to what experts say. I am no expert and experts may be proven wrong over time, if so I will be the first to state whatever they tried failed and be happy to see a next option tried until we get it to something that solves the population problem.
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Re: New AU study on hogs and turkeys...
[Re: Frankie]
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09/02/22 06:03 AM
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Ben2
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Ben, I think waiting on the state to get it right is a big mistake. The way they manage theyll always be behind the curve. Just the way it is .
Do what you thing is right on your land. People can try and make it as complicated as they want but really it's common sense. Got that and understand the common sense opinions and dont disagree but also dont fault the "experts " for trying. The common sense methods are difficult for a bunch of people. Just because I have the time and ability to trap and feed and plant does not mean the next 10 land owners around me do so even doing all I can do may not be enough, so maybe the states experiments will pay off in some fashion to help out. Thats my hope at least.
Last edited by Ben2; 09/02/22 06:04 AM.
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