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2Dogs #3964190 08/24/23 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Vivek is Obama light , be aware . He's a smooth talker that is hypnotizing folks.


If he, like Obama, is a smooth operator for his platform (which I agree with 95%), I'm for it. He's more like 2016 Trump than B.O., but none of that really matters. When you see all the establishment folks come out guns a'blazin for him, that should tell you everything you need to know.

DeSantis did ok, but he seemed prepared to give (and gave) answers for questions that were not asked.


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swammy doesn't believe in killing animals because he believes those are his ancestors reincarnated, A Hindu may or may not even believe in a god, period. An athiest that does yoga could technically call themselves a Hindu. He seems to be intelligent, which tells me he'll confidently say whatever someone wants to hear.

To bad they didn't ask him " how do we know your not hittler reborn?"


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abolt300 #3964193 08/24/23 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by abolt300
It’s why the continually let him respond last night. He probably have 3x the time the others had to speak. They weren’t bout to ask him about his stance on the second amendment


He got to speak because, as the rules called for, he got 30 seconds rebuttle if another person mentioned them by name... and they couldn't keep his name out of their mouth.


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Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
swammy doesn't believe in killing animals because he believes those are his ancestors reincarnated, A Hindu may or may not even believe in a god, period. An athiest that does yoga could technically call themselves a Hindu. He seems to be intelligent, which tells me he'll confidently say whatever someone wants to hear.

To bad they didn't ask him " how do we know your not hittler reborn?"


If you ask a Hindu if somebody can convert to Hinduism like a Muslim can to Christianity or the other way, a Hindu will say ,"No, you have to be born Hindu, there is no converting to Hinduism".


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Skinny #3964210 08/24/23 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by goodman_hunter
swammy doesn't believe in killing animals because he believes those are his ancestors reincarnated, A Hindu may or may not even believe in a god, period. An athiest that does yoga could technically call themselves a Hindu. He seems to be intelligent, which tells me he'll confidently say whatever someone wants to hear.

To bad they didn't ask him " how do we know your not hittler reborn?"


If you ask a Hindu if somebody can convert to Hinduism like a Muslim can to Christianity or the other way, a Hindu will say ,"No, you have to be born Hindu, there is no converting to Hinduism".

probably because they believe in the caste system. I'm not sure most of them even view Hinduism as a religion


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Yup. Somebody should ask Vivek if he has Caste Privilege. That is actually a real thing unlike white privilege.


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hallb #3964220 08/24/23 09:16 AM
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Yeah. DeSantis sounding best to me which I’m happy about

I agree.


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Yeah. DeSantis sounding best to me which I’m happy about

I agree.


The Democrat (Disney) media machine is blasting Desantis and might as well be giving Vivek a pedicure. That should tell you something right there.


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The Indian guy makes me laugh. I can't look at him without thinking about the Indian guy from parks and recreation.


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https://youtu.be/_brdDBHOT5E?si=Lpb_LN2zVgPn_1Xv
Go to the 2:00 mark and watch. Desantis lost me here.


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India’s population is supposed to overtake China this year. Yet their economy is roughly 1/5. They are projected to be the world’s top economy by 2075. A lot of moving and shaking there

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Sorry I missed it. I was polishing tools in my garage. My wife invited me in for the season finale of The Bachelor, but I had to get the saw dust off from underneath the Canueter valves on the chop saw. Did I miss anything?

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Vivak is very pro 2A, he has first and knowledge of what can happen to a country when its citizens are not armed. He is also very pro freedom, I don't care if he is hindu or a vegan as long as he is not trying to affect my freedoms, which he has been very vocal about reducing government, and not limiting our American liberties.

I realize he received a scholarship from a soros funded organization, but calling him Obama 2.0 is clearly ignorant. Obama never held a private sector job, never built a company, never received a patent on a drug, never did anything except be groomed toward socialism. Vivak is the only person on that stage (Trump would be a 2nd, but wasn't there) that has actually been hugely successful outside of politics. There are podcasts out there that Vivak has been on from the past couple of years and he seems very genuine and seems to hate lots of the same things I hate.

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Originally Posted by hosscat
Vivak is very pro 2A, he has first and knowledge of what can happen to a country when its citizens are not armed. He is also very pro freedom, I don't care if he is hindu or a vegan as long as he is not trying to affect my freedoms, which he has been very vocal about reducing government, and not limiting our American liberties.

I realize he received a scholarship from a soros funded organization, but calling him Obama 2.0 is clearly ignorant. Obama never held a private sector job, never built a company, never received a patent on a drug, never did anything except be groomed toward socialism. Vivak is the only person on that stage (Trump would be a 2nd, but wasn't there) that has actually been hugely successful outside of politics. There are podcasts out there that Vivak has been on from the past couple of years and he seems very genuine and seems to hate lots of the same things I hate.


Fact is it is not ignorant. He has no first hand knowledge on the importance of the 2A other than what he read in books. His parents moved to the US when he was 2 yrs old. Nobody really knows a dang thing about who Vivek really is, other than he's been successful in business (How? He was in school until he was 26 or 27 getting his MBA and his JD, well that really hasnt been fully explained either, kind of like the Crypto Kid Bankman Freid, another young kid running a huge business first or second year after getting out of school, somebody had to set him up, you dont go straight from middle school to playing for the Yankees). How do you know he's more like Trump? Vivek admitted last night that he's 38 and has only voted in 2 elections, so he didnt vote from the time he turned 18 until he was basically 30? Seems a little strange that he wasnt voting, what with him having an Ivy League education (raises another question, who got him into Harvard and Yale, those schools are not merit based, admission is based on who you know and who can pull strings for you), working on wall street, owning and starting multiple businesses (by the way, where'd the money to start all that at such a young age come from, especially given that we were just coming out of the global financial crisis and credit was super tight and nobody was making loans at the time)?. All this is just something to think about. He's obviously not a true conservative because he had every reason to vote in the previous elections that he supposedly passed on, since both of those "skipped elections" just happened to be the ones when the most liberal and divisive president in our lifetime Barack Hussein Obama was running on a platform of "fundamentally changing America". I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut that he did vote in more than just the last two, but to admit that, he'd have to admit that he voted for Obama in the prior two elections which is a definite no no for a "republican candidate". For reference, he only registered as a republican for the first time in late 2021. All of the above and a little deductive reasoning should tell you something. Any smart person can read the room and say what people will like and want to hear. That's what you saw last night and have heard for the past couple years. Obama popped up out of nowhere too, and was a instant superstar just like Vivek has done.

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Originally Posted by hosscat
Vivak is very pro 2A, he has first and knowledge of what can happen to a country when its citizens are not armed. He is also very pro freedom, I don't care if he is hindu or a vegan as long as he is not trying to affect my freedoms, which he has been very vocal about reducing government, and not limiting our American liberties.

I realize he received a scholarship from a soros funded organization, but calling him Obama 2.0 is clearly ignorant. Obama never held a private sector job, never built a company, never received a patent on a drug, never did anything except be groomed toward socialism. Vivak is the only person on that stage(Trump would be a 2nd, but wasn't there) that has actually been hugely successful outside of politics. There are podcasts out there that Vivak has been on from the past couple of years and he seems very genuine and seems to hate lots of the same things I hate.


I don't think Doug Burgun will be nominated but I would consider him as being successful in the private sector.

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Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by hosscat
Vivak is very pro 2A, he has first and knowledge of what can happen to a country when its citizens are not armed. He is also very pro freedom, I don't care if he is hindu or a vegan as long as he is not trying to affect my freedoms, which he has been very vocal about reducing government, and not limiting our American liberties.

I realize he received a scholarship from a soros funded organization, but calling him Obama 2.0 is clearly ignorant. Obama never held a private sector job, never built a company, never received a patent on a drug, never did anything except be groomed toward socialism. Vivak is the only person on that stage(Trump would be a 2nd, but wasn't there) that has actually been hugely successful outside of politics. There are podcasts out there that Vivak has been on from the past couple of years and he seems very genuine and seems to hate lots of the same things I hate.


I don't think Doug Burgun will be nominated but I would consider him as being successful in the private sector.


Very successful , I think he's worth about 1.5 billion.

I call Vivak Obama like because he's a fast, smooth , slick talker . Folks better do some deep research before they pull the lever for him.



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I watched a little bit of it but the entire thing was completely irrelevant. Really a waste of time discussing it IMO.

And y'all know I love discussing this stuff.


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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

I watched a little bit of it but the entire thing was completely irrelevant. Really a waste of time discussing it IMO.

And y'all know I love discussing this stuff.


They were all disagreeing with one another about topics that they all agreed on. It really didn't seem to help anyone except for getting some name recognition for Swamy.

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Didn't watch. Not interested


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Not a single candidate on either side can hold Vivek's jock strap, but he has two issues that won't let him win:

First, he talks WAY too intelligently for most people. Literally, the majority of Americans aren't high-functioning enough to "get" what he means. He's too articulate, words are too fancy, thoughts are too high. I've said it on here before- Men aren't intimidated by a stronger man, they're intimidated by a smarter man. He's too smart for most folks, so it's a turn off (which is the saddest indictment on America ever).

And the second is akin to the first... Conservatives, especially southerners, will be turned off and think he's "weak" because he doesn't act like a drunk bully at a bonfire (see Trump, and sorta Desantis). Vivek's views and words are superior to theirs, but he's diminutive and "nice". He's a thinly veiled Libertarian (which I love), but southern conservatives want a bully authoritarian (again, see Trump and Desantis). Conservatives TALK about liberty, but they don't mean it, they just want their version of authoritarianism. In the end, Vivek won't make it because he'll refuse to take an authoritarian stance on personal ideals, therefore Conservatives will ignore him and follow the brash candidate like the Pied Piper.


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