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Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
#4053435
01/04/24 01:56 PM
01/04/24 01:56 PM
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 9,037 Jasper
bama7x57
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Jasper
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I have purchased a 1930's house in the downtown area of Jasper. It currently has central air with natural gas heat. The neighbor is plumbed for natural gas. The whole system needs replacing. I've only heated with heat pumps in newer houses with adequate insulation. What would be my best bet to economically heat a drafty old house with very little insulation?
Take your kids hunting instead of hunting your kids.
I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.
Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: bama7x57]
#4053453
01/04/24 02:25 PM
01/04/24 02:25 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 37,660 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Boxes Cove
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Get your windows and insulation up to speed first !
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: bama7x57]
#4053468
01/04/24 02:44 PM
01/04/24 02:44 PM
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Posts: 8,245 Tuscaloosa, Al, USA
Big Buck Video
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We had a heat pump at our first house. It would do ok until the temps got down in the 30’s. Then the emergency heat strip would come on. Not only could you not stay in there with it, what it did to the power bill was awful. I said never again. Love my gas heat.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: bama7x57]
#4053478
01/04/24 02:59 PM
01/04/24 02:59 PM
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Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 8,237 Montgomery, AL
Hunting-231
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We are all electric because we don't have a choice. However, IMHO gas is the way to go for heat and water heaters based on my previous experience.
The ONLY thing I didn't like about gas heat was it seemed to remove too much moisture from the house - which caused my sinuses (I have terrible sinuses from having my nose broken twice) some fits.
"The struggle you're in today, is developing the strength you need for tomorrow."
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: bama7x57]
#4053480
01/04/24 03:00 PM
01/04/24 03:00 PM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 10,555 Scottsboro, Al
jbatey1
Lucky Bastage
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Lucky Bastage
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Posts: 10,555
Scottsboro, Al
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I have purchased a 1930's house in the downtown area of Jasper. It currently has central air with natural gas heat. The neighbor is plumbed for natural gas. The whole system needs replacing. I've only heated with heat pumps in newer houses with adequate insulation. What would be my best bet to economically heat a drafty old house with very little insulation? If you knowingly know that the insulation is poor, go ahead and tackle that when you replace the Heating system. If you have gas, but are use to heat pumps. Go with a duel fuel option. You’re get the efficiency of a heat pump until it’s “too cold” and then you can have the hot heat of gas. With modern thermostats, you can control the switchover temperatures in which it operates Heat Pump or Gas.
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: Hunting-231]
#4053481
01/04/24 03:02 PM
01/04/24 03:02 PM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 10,555 Scottsboro, Al
jbatey1
Lucky Bastage
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Lucky Bastage
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We are all electric because we don't have a choice. However, IMHO gas is the way to go for heat and water heaters based on my previous experience.
The ONLY thing I didn't like about gas heat was it seemed to remove too much moisture from the house - which caused my sinuses (I have terrible sinuses from having my nose broken twice) some fits. Yep, it’ll dry that air out quick. Whole home steam humidifiers can combat that, if someone wants the comfort and isn’t afraid of the extra expense.
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: bama7x57]
#4053488
01/04/24 03:14 PM
01/04/24 03:14 PM
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 9,037 Jasper
bama7x57
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OP
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Jasper
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The attic appears to be insulated well, but talking with the neighbors of similar vintage houses, the walls are not insulated.
Take your kids hunting instead of hunting your kids.
I'd rather be LOST in the woods than FOUND in the city.
Drive a hybrid, I need your gas.
Your mind is your primary weapon. Never let it get rusty.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: Tree Dweller]
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01/04/24 05:31 PM
01/04/24 05:31 PM
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Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 601 Caledonia
Showout
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4 point
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Posts: 601
Caledonia
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Heat Pump/Gas. Set the HP to lock out at 32 and switch over to gas. Expensive up front, but worth it the farther North you go. I wanted to go this route in my last build, but every installer I talked to advised against it. They said they are a constant headache due to malfunctions. I’m not an AC guy obviously, but just passing that info along. I thought it was a great idea personally but since so many were telling me the same exact thing, it scared me out of going this route. In theory, this would be the best option imo, just do your homework.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: Lockjaw]
#4053591
01/04/24 05:39 PM
01/04/24 05:39 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 37,660 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I must be different, but I don't like gas heat, it gets to hot. I prefer the cooler warmth of the heat pump. Now mine wasn't very happy last december. Ditto. My house is well insulated and has good quality windows. We're comfortable with our electric HP in winter and are comfortable with the electric bill too. 
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: Tree Dweller]
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01/04/24 05:39 PM
01/04/24 05:39 PM
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Posts: 11,220 Conecuh county
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Booner
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Conecuh county
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Heat Pump/Gas. Set the HP to lock out at 32 and switch over to gas. Expensive up front, but worth it the farther North you go. This is what I did at my place in Milton.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: bama7x57]
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01/04/24 06:50 PM
01/04/24 06:50 PM
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Posts: 9,437 Tallassee
G/H
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Gas heat, the outside unit for a HP basically runs 365 days a year. Heat pumps heats the air outside to your inside temp. If you settle on a heat pump I would install ventless gas logs to knock the chill off in the mornings
Last edited by G/H; 01/04/24 06:50 PM.
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: bama7x57]
#4053651
01/04/24 07:26 PM
01/04/24 07:26 PM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 15,478 Hoover
Fattyfireplug
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Posts: 15,478
Hoover
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Gas heat, always and forever.
I almost always find Gas on main level and a mix of gas/heat pump on upper level.
Why? Heat rises and a heat pump can heat adequately with help from the gas furnace on the lower levels.
Otherwise, I have no use for a heat pump. They suck
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Re: Gas Heat vs Heat Pump
[Re: G/H]
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01/05/24 01:27 AM
01/05/24 01:27 AM
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Posts: 6,882 F L A
Tree Dweller
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Gas heat, the outside unit for a HP basically runs 365 days a year. Heat pumps heats the air outside to your inside temp. If you settle on a heat pump I would install ventless gas logs to knock the chill off in the mornings Or a wood stove. I get up on cold mornings (4am) and build a good fire. This eliminates the defrost cycle for the most part. That's the hole the money goes down when the strip heat kicks on and the outdoor unit is out there steaming and fizzing. Wood needs to be free of course for this to have merit.
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