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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: RandanAL] #4073187
01/29/24 03:03 PM
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Awbarn, AL
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Originally Posted by RandanAL
Originally Posted by CNC
A year later I still say we should adjust the season dates to the following.
Any reason to reduce the season rather than moving to physical tags and tighter bag limits with stiff fines that isn't "people are just going to break the law and keep killing deer". I think if the state came out and publicly said "hey we're killing too many does and it's hurting the herd, we need to put bag limits in" very very few people would exceed their limit.


I did recommend going to physical tags……I recommended that, along with taking back the 10 days that were added onto gun season with the extension…..along with going to doe days for more areas…..along with restructuring the season dates so that north Alabama hunters arent gun hunting in Feb……


We dont rent pigs
Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073309
01/29/24 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by RandanAL
Originally Posted by CNC
A year later I still say we should adjust the season dates to the following.
Any reason to reduce the season rather than moving to physical tags and tighter bag limits with stiff fines that isn't "people are just going to break the law and keep killing deer". I think if the state came out and publicly said "hey we're killing too many does and it's hurting the herd, we need to put bag limits in" very very few people would exceed their limit.


I did recommend going to physical tags……I recommended that, along with taking back the 10 days that were added onto gun season with the extension…..along with going to doe days for more areas…..along with restructuring the season dates so that north Alabama hunters arent gun hunting in Feb……

Ah - my bad. Sounds like you're thinking of a multi-pronged approach. Carry on!

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073380
01/29/24 08:07 PM
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It’s a simple formula: shoot less does + shoot more predators = bigger deer herd

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073402
01/29/24 08:33 PM
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go ing to tags is going to help nothing and only add to the cost to the people . we have game check , the deer processers have to have that number to take a deer .

the ones not fallowing the law now wont fallow a tagging system either . there will be ways around it .

it comes to just how hard you wanna make on ever body to hunt or how much you wanna make it cost ?????

of course the state will have to come up with a way to cover the cost of a tagging system .

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073413
01/29/24 08:53 PM
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Game Check compliance is estimated to be around 65% I believe......What kind of compliance rates do other states have with a tag system??......I’m guessing it’s higher than 65%


We dont rent pigs
Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Frankie] #4073414
01/29/24 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie
go ing to tags is going to help nothing and only add to the cost to the people . we have game check , the deer processers have to have that number to take a deer .

the ones not fallowing the law now wont fallow a tagging system either . there will be ways around it .

it comes to just how hard you wanna make on ever body to hunt or how much you wanna make it cost ?????

of course the state will have to come up with a way to cover the cost of a tagging system .


Easy. Just add a tagging privilege.

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Lefty1] #4073456
01/29/24 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lefty1
It’s a simple formula: shoot less does + shoot more predators = bigger deer herd

not as simple as that. plus everyone would be bitching about the rut and not seeing any chasing or cursing due to the fact that the bucks dont have to move near a much to find doe.


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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Mbrock] #4073457
01/29/24 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Frankie
go ing to tags is going to help nothing and only add to the cost to the people . we have game check , the deer processers have to have that number to take a deer .

the ones not fallowing the law now wont fallow a tagging system either . there will be ways around it .

it comes to just how hard you wanna make on ever body to hunt or how much you wanna make it cost ?????

of course the state will have to come up with a way to cover the cost of a tagging system .


Easy. Just add a tagging privilege.

and price it at $50/tag. i mean they trying to make it a rich man sport anyway right smile


Turkey’s tell you when they want to die not lawmakers.
Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: Mbrock] #4073473
01/30/24 12:59 AM
01/30/24 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Frankie
go ing to tags is going to help nothing and only add to the cost to the people . we have game check , the deer processers have to have that number to take a deer .

the ones not fallowing the law now wont fallow a tagging system either . there will be ways around it .

it comes to just how hard you wanna make on ever body to hunt or how much you wanna make it cost ?????

of course the state will have to come up with a way to cover the cost of a tagging system .


Easy. Just add a tagging privilege.



lol ,,,, then theyll raise the limit to five .

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: bhammedic84] #4073475
01/30/24 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bhammedic84
Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Frankie
go ing to tags is going to help nothing and only add to the cost to the people . we have game check , the deer processers have to have that number to take a deer .

the ones not fallowing the law now wont fallow a tagging system either . there will be ways around it .

it comes to just how hard you wanna make on ever body to hunt or how much you wanna make it cost ?????

of course the state will have to come up with a way to cover the cost of a tagging system .


Easy. Just add a tagging privilege.

and price it at $50/tag. i mean they trying to make it a rich man sport anyway right smile



but that dont help places where doe numbers are low . is some truth about more does more bucks . i guess we could do $50 on bucks $25 on does . lol

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: bhammedic84] #4073590
01/30/24 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bhammedic84
Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Frankie
go ing to tags is going to help nothing and only add to the cost to the people . we have game check , the deer processers have to have that number to take a deer .

the ones not fallowing the law now wont fallow a tagging system either . there will be ways around it .

it comes to just how hard you wanna make on ever body to hunt or how much you wanna make it cost ?????

of course the state will have to come up with a way to cover the cost of a tagging system .


Easy. Just add a tagging privilege.

and price it at $50/tag. i mean they trying to make it a rich man sport anyway right smile
If you want to raise some revenue and hit more wealthy hunters add a hunting lease tax, say $1 per acre, a shooting house registration - $50/year/shooting house, and a green field privilege - $2/year/acre. Now you're taxing wealthy hunters.

For example in a place with tag restrictions they may give out 1 rifle tag (either sex), a bow tag (either sex), then a bow/muzz tag (either sex). If you want more does, you can buy the permits for like 10 bucks, but they are zone restricted to areas with high doe population. So for example you could buy an extra doe tag for Lauderdale county if the state says more does need to be killed there, but you couldn't use that tag in Madison county. You can end up killing a lot of does if you want to but they have to be from areas with high doe population.

Of course some guy with a corn pile can crossbow deer in his backyard year round, but that's always been the case and there's nothing you can do to stop it other than reporting them if you hear/know about it.

Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4073729
01/30/24 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by RandanAL
Originally Posted by CNC
A year later I still say we should adjust the season dates to the following.
Any reason to reduce the season rather than moving to physical tags and tighter bag limits with stiff fines that isn't "people are just going to break the law and keep killing deer". I think if the state came out and publicly said "hey we're killing too many does and it's hurting the herd, we need to put bag limits in" very very few people would exceed their limit.


I did recommend going to physical tags……I recommended that, along with taking back the 10 days that were added onto gun season with the extension…..along with going to doe days for more areas…..along with restructuring the season dates so that north Alabama hunters arent gun hunting in Feb……

As bad as I hate to agree with ANYTHING you say. I’m completely against the February extended season. Especially in North Alabama.


If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: CNC] #4074164
01/31/24 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by RandanAL
Originally Posted by CNC
A year later I still say we should adjust the season dates to the following.
Any reason to reduce the season rather than moving to physical tags and tighter bag limits with stiff fines that isn't "people are just going to break the law and keep killing deer". I think if the state came out and publicly said "hey we're killing too many does and it's hurting the herd, we need to put bag limits in" very very few people would exceed their limit.


I did recommend going to physical tags……I recommended that, along with taking back the 10 days that were added onto gun season with the extension…..along with going to doe days for more areas…..along with restructuring the season dates so that north Alabama hunters arent gun hunting in Feb……


Recommended to whom?



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Re: New Season Dates Revisited [Re: 2Dogs] #4074173
01/31/24 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Recommended to whom?
I mean all of us are "peeing in the ocean" ha

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