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Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... #4094575
03/03/24 02:29 PM
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This is super cool. Chip technology is so tiny it's a wonder how we even manufacture it and it's understandable why the US wants to bring as much of the production as we can back home. So much of our lives depend on it now, not to mention the National Defense implication.

It's like stuff keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller and then all of the sudden it just becomes magic.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4094577
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Its always amazed me that there are not several chip plants here. Heck, the most important metal on Earth for chips and cell phones comes from right here in Alabama.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4094703
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Huntsville area would be prime for production


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4094711
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Corningware has a refinery in Macon County on the Tallapoosa River.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4094927
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Mrs. Irish and I watched it again yesterday afternoon, it just amazes me how they even build that stuff. How do you manufacture stuff like that?

Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4094951
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Mrs. Irish and I watched it again yesterday afternoon, it just amazes me how they even build that stuff. How do you manufacture stuff like that?


What people don't see, are the years and years of learning, and experiment after experiment that failed.

Here is most of science.
https://www.americanbiotechnologist.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/sciencerage.png

Edison's light bulb was very simple, but his lab tested ~3,000 different filaments. He did NOT invent the light bulb. He bought that patent. He made a filament that lasted long enough to make the light bulb functional.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4094963
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That kind of talk is way above my pay grade.

Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: whack-n-stack] #4094968
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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
That kind of talk is way above my pay grade.

Thinking the same thing. How do you create something that thin?

Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: RCHRR] #4094997
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Originally Posted by RCHRR
Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
That kind of talk is way above my pay grade.

Thinking the same thing. How do you create something that thin?


Same way granny did when she made pie crusts but the rolling pins aint made out of oak, they are made from pecan.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4095019
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1. 486DX40 desktop. Had to make a boot disk to get enough RAM to run some of the renegade (locally procured wink software from the AG Econ Lab.
2. HP 28S. That damn mini computer or calculator was some count. Those of us that had them were at an unfair advantage but the profs could not do anything about it.

Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4095039
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They're currently working on building a MASSIVE production plant in Arizona, between Phoenix and Tucson.....and when I say massive, I mean unbelievably huge to the point where it seems like it's an illusion.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: cartervj] #4095078
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Huntsville area would be prime for production
We are too expensive. On a side note. We just bought some SMT line (surface mount equipment) that can place parts onto circuit cards that are smaller than a fleck of pepper at tens of thousands per hour.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4095106
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Irish, thanks for sharing that.

Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: GomerPyle] #4095121
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle

They're currently working on building a MASSIVE production plant in Arizona, between Phoenix and Tucson.....and when I say massive, I mean unbelievably huge to the point where it seems like it's an illusion.


Its going to be about as big as the Tesla Giga-factory on the south end of Austin. You can find it with Google Satellite imagery almost as fast as you can type its name in the search box because it says TESLA on the roof of it. Each letter is bigger than a football field..


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: CAL] #4095181
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Originally Posted by CAL
Irish, thanks for sharing that.



Thanks...

i try only to share stuff that's either really stupid or really educational. grin

Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4095249
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The technology that really gets protected is how to manufacture and the materials needed to manufacture the hardware that is needed to manufacture the chips.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: cartervj] #4095250
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Huntsville area would be prime for production

Please no!


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: wmd] #4095251
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Originally Posted by wmd
Originally Posted by cartervj
Huntsville area would be prime for production

Please no!


Auburn Opelika could use another 50,000 people.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: Irishguy] #4095266
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Back in the early 2000's I invested in a Silicon Valley chip manufacturer. Global suppliers overran the market and I lost nearly all my investment. Worst stock purchase I ever made.







Re: Quantum Mechanics in Your Smartphone... [Re: wmd] #4095275
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Originally Posted by wmd
The technology that really gets protected is how to manufacture and the materials needed to manufacture the hardware that is needed to manufacture the chips.


China with their hold on neodymium could be issue. We saw during Covid, the global JIT supply chain is extremely fragile.


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