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Re: Burial question
[Re: Darrylcom]
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04/10/24 08:08 AM
04/10/24 08:08 AM
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Posts: 26,324 Prattville, Alabama
Skullworks
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In my experience with my brother's passing even if you have your wish to be cremated in your will your living next of kin will have to agree to it. All of my brothers had to sign paperwork at the funeral home to allow his body to be cremated.
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Re: Burial question
[Re: 3toe]
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04/10/24 08:11 AM
04/10/24 08:11 AM
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Posts: 21,255 Northport, AL
GomerPyle
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I've heard certain denominations say to be cremated is against the biblical teachings. I've never seen anything in the Bible to support that. Think of all the ways folks die and thie bodies disposed of. War, drowning/lost at sea, etc.
I've heard this brought up too and would love to see what specific argument those people make to support their line of reasoning but have never seen or heard anything specific. I would much prefer cremation to burial for various reasons, unless their is a Biblical argument against it.
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Re: Burial question
[Re: Darrylcom]
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04/10/24 08:34 AM
04/10/24 08:34 AM
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ford150man
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It’s old time teaching because a lot of pagans used to dispose of bodies by burning them. The Bible talks about when Christ returns and the bodies being raised, therefore, a lot of people believe if the body is cremated there won’t be a body to raise which wouldn’t allow one to be with Christ in Heaven. There are a few problems with that teaching. First, the Bible tells us to be absent from the body is to be present with Christ (for the believers). So, how can one be present with Christ, the second they die, but then suddenly be removed from His presence once the family cremates the body? Also, what if a person wanted to be buried but the family cremates them instead? Is God going to say “sorry, you don’t have a body now, you got to go”. Not hardly. Another issue, as mentioned above, look at all the people that have drowned, died in 911, been dead and rotted long ago, etc…. Where are their bodies? The Bible tells us even the sea will give up the bodies. If Christ formed us out of dust, he can raise a rotted body back out of dust if we need one. Personally, if it were up to me, I’d be cremated and spread in the Gulf of Mexico, but the wife isn’t crazy about it. I told her to do what makes her feel best.
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Re: Burial question
[Re: Darrylcom]
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04/10/24 09:14 AM
04/10/24 09:14 AM
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Posts: 1,649 North Baldwin County, Al
TensawRiver
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I don't have a final position either, I suppose I'm okay either way. What I do know is that God Himself buried Moses's body and hid it from everyone. Also, that the Archangel Michael had somekind of dispute with satan over Moses's body. Nothing else is said in scripture about it, just speculation.
Romans 8:1-2 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
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Re: Burial question
[Re: OldgoatTN68]
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04/10/24 09:18 AM
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Posts: 1,649 North Baldwin County, Al
TensawRiver
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my wishes are for cremation. then my son has agreed to load some of the ashes into shotgun shells and family and friends will shoot me out over some of my favorite hunting and shooting spots. i just want to out in the places i have loved. There's a retired Game Warden (Clem Parnell) here in north Baldwin that does that on the side now after retirement. http://www.myholysmoke.com/home.html
Romans 8:1-2 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of Sin and Death"
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Re: Burial question
[Re: Darrylcom]
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04/10/24 02:49 PM
04/10/24 02:49 PM
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Fattyfireplug
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My grandmother was hard set against it. Said the Bible preached against it. Never was able to tell me where, nor has anyone else. I did a little research, not a lot. As Christianity was spreading, they needed to push away Pagan rituals. Some they hijacked, others they just made up crap to try to get the pagans to stop the rituals. Funeral Pyres were a widespread pagan ritual. So early Christians just interpreted whatever they wanted in the bible to stop the rituals. It's been passed down word of mouth ever since. But nobody has ever been able to show me anything Christ has said that says no cremation. My grandfather, MIL, GMIL and others have been cremated. My ONLY reservation is people have a tendency to NOT dispose of the remains.
If I were cremated I want my ashes scattered under an old oak tree at a fork in a creek where I hunt. I don't want them sitting on a shelf in my families living room.
My SIL was telling everyone she had terminal cancer. Probably to get $, but definitely to get attention. I offered to pay for her cremation. So I could shucks in the ashes and dump it all in a landfill.
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Re: Burial question
[Re: Darrylcom]
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04/10/24 03:40 PM
04/10/24 03:40 PM
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JustHunt
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My dad was cremated. He was a very frugal man and didn’t want money spent on a traditional burial. We all have cemetery plots in Cleburne county and we buried his ashes and got a headstone to go along with it. I intend on having the exact same thing done for myself and my mother doesn’t want a traditional burial either. It’s become a rip off to have a traditional burial.
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Re: Burial question
[Re: Tigger85]
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04/10/24 03:42 PM
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Skinny
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Just because you're cremated doesn't mean you can't be buried. It's just a lot easier with a post hole digger than a back hoe. That's my plan, into the family cemetery. Just need a tombstone and we're set. , Why would you use a post hole digger? A bag of human ashes is about the size of a gas station quick snack of Doritos, if that big. Its about closer to a softball size bag. And yes, the ashes are bagged in a plastic bag for nature. My point is, it shouldn't take you more than a simple hand garden shovel, no need to get out those post hole diggers you never liked using anyway.
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Re: Burial question
[Re: TensawRiver]
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04/10/24 04:56 PM
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burbank
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my wishes are for cremation. then my son has agreed to load some of the ashes into shotgun shells and family and friends will shoot me out over some of my favorite hunting and shooting spots. i just want to out in the places i have loved. There's a retired Game Warden (Clem Parnell) here in north Baldwin that does that on the side now after retirement. http://www.myholysmoke.com/home.htmlI found that site when I had a friend pass away. Tried to convince his wife to let me shoot a turkey in the face with him….
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Re: Burial question
[Re: burbank]
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04/10/24 05:11 PM
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Posts: 11,808 Walker county
Driveby
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my wishes are for cremation. then my son has agreed to load some of the ashes into shotgun shells and family and friends will shoot me out over some of my favorite hunting and shooting spots. i just want to out in the places i have loved. There's a retired Game Warden (Clem Parnell) here in north Baldwin that does that on the side now after retirement. http://www.myholysmoke.com/home.htmlI found that site when I had a friend pass away. Tried to convince his wife to let me shoot a turkey in the face with him…. Donia and I help shoot a friend out over the duck hole where we had our last hunt. There was 7 of us with 3 shells each and we done a 21 gun salute at sunset.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Re: Burial question
[Re: Driveby]
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04/10/24 05:14 PM
04/10/24 05:14 PM
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Posts: 17,053 Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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my wishes are for cremation. then my son has agreed to load some of the ashes into shotgun shells and family and friends will shoot me out over some of my favorite hunting and shooting spots. i just want to out in the places i have loved. There's a retired Game Warden (Clem Parnell) here in north Baldwin that does that on the side now after retirement. http://www.myholysmoke.com/home.htmlI found that site when I had a friend pass away. Tried to convince his wife to let me shoot a turkey in the face with him…. Donia and I help shoot a friend out over the duck hole where we had our last hunt. There was 7 of us with 3 shells each and we done a 21 gun salute at sunset. Now that is a way to send someone out! Special for all of you I’m sure.
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Re: Burial question
[Re: Darrylcom]
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04/10/24 06:44 PM
04/10/24 06:44 PM
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Posts: 1,878 Lake Bluff IL
Bud Meadows
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My Dad’s favorite place on Earth was a fly fishing club we belonged to in rural Massachusetts. After he was cremated we held a brief ceremony at the lake and my two sisters rowed out in a boat and scattered his ashes. As luck would have it there was a mayfly hatch going on and the trout gobbled the ashes right along with the emerging flies. The following week we went fishing at the club and one of the members kept several trout to eat. My brother in law Paul reminded the member that he probably would be eating some of Dr Meadows’ remains with his fish. I’ve told my kids I want to be cremated and my ashes scattered in the Road Hole Bunker at St Andrews, my favorite golf course. That way when my grandkids are watching the British Open and the golfers get to the 17th hole they can say “There’s Grandpa”. True story!
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Re: Burial question
[Re: jsubrett6]
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04/10/24 06:59 PM
04/10/24 06:59 PM
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Posts: 2,156 Elmore County, Al
gwstang
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The Bible is silent on the matter and that’s for a reason. We are living here in an earthly body - once dead, it’s going to rot in the ground any way. God is concerned about the inner man, our soul. Some Christians were burned alive, as torches for Caesar's garden. Others in the arena. Surely they will receive another body, as we will some day.
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