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Prime turkey land/habitat #4125656
05/02/24 09:31 AM
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Northport, AL
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what do you consider absolutely textbook perfect turkey land/habitat? Like, if you could snap your fingers and create a turkey hunting "Garden of Eden", what would it look like?


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125678
05/02/24 10:01 AM
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Deep, oak timbered draws with corn, soybeans, and cattle on every ridge and hill.


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: TurkeyJoe] #4125685
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Originally Posted by TurkeyJoe
Deep, oak timbered draws with corn, soybeans, and cattle on every ridge and hill.


Park like oak timber? Nesting habitat? Poult habitat?

Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125692
05/02/24 10:20 AM
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100 plus year old mostly White oak Timber.....clear understory. Good water source. Fallow fields for Nesting and Bugging. YES on the Corn and Soybean fields!!

Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125702
05/02/24 10:51 AM
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Go no further than Jackson county 😂


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125707
05/02/24 11:02 AM
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Awbarn, AL
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Highly organic soil…….plenty of early successional understory with a proper mix of grasses, broadleafs, and woody structure……..mixed with some mature hardwood timber and open fields…….


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125714
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Gomer..id care to take a dare…most folks on here dont know…but my answer is…any land that has a source population….and consistent disturbance with fire and plow…and sunshine that can hit the ground…yall made fun of my pine puns…but they really are in my mind…the easiest to manage and control for a normal dude with a tractor an a disc…everbody loves big purty hardwoods…but they are a desert for wildlife if thats all there is…variety is the spice of life when it comes to wildlife…and even then becomes undesirable pretty quick without some kind of manipulation…but im just a dummy…a dummy with a slip clutch that wont come off🤷🏻


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125810
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The one thing most folks could do to benefit their turkey population is leave a 30-40ft soft edge around all greenfields and food plots.


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125815
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Cutover, hardwood, cow pastures, pines and greenfields… heavy trapping

Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125827
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This is a cocklebur field in Missouri, corn fields on both sides with small strips of woods around it! Farmer hasn't planted it on 2 years and we thought no way it would be turkeys in it but we were wrong, gobblers and hens all in it, lots of scratching, droppings,bugs and tracks in it. We wound up killing two out of it and came close on a third. Sometimes perfect is not what you really think of!
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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125839
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Sandy land. Low predator #s. 100 plus year old mixed timber. Hills

Some different age longleafs on the top of the ridges

I hunt a place like this. It’s almost perfect

Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125852
05/02/24 04:58 PM
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Just bought 175 acres of Good land for Turkeys in Coosa County......to Add to my Hand of Tuckey Cards.

Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125864
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Mixed pine and oak ridges with cows in pasture and ESH adjoining both. Above the mixed timber mostly mature hardwood ridges

All encompassing about 10,000 acres with no pressure on that acreage.


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125877
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This property has as many turkeys per acre as any I work with in the last 20 years. Diversity. I would HATE to hunt or manage a large tract of old growth hardwood - even though I would like to look at it wink


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125918
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Diversity is key, looks to be majority of hardwoods and not pines gobbler.

Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125921
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I would rather hunt large blocks of mature timber (at least 1000 acres), but the best habitat is a mixture of vegetation in various successional stages The best farm I know of has about 80% fields. About 20% is in CRP, 60% is in pasture, and the other 20% of the fields is in row crops. It is all split up by wooded streams (60 yards wide) and a couple 40 acre blocks of mature timber which have been selectively cut about 20 years ago. i Lots of birds.

Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4125938
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I was going to say a contiguous tract of highly diverse stages of timber, fields and creek bottoms. Gotta have water!

Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4126024
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Seems they do gravitate toward creek bottoms, at leas the best properties I’ve ever hunted had big creeks.


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: Forrestgump1] #4126120
05/03/24 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
Diversity is key, looks to be majority of hardwoods and not pines gobbler.

Diverse yes!. But while there is a lot of hardwood, it is not the majority. There is 990 acres of hardwood or natural pine/hardwood. 1,560 acres of pine (some longleaf, some loblolly, some young, some older and thinned), of which there is 630 acres of open quail woods. The diversity key is also to have some of everything, all over!


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Re: Prime turkey land/habitat [Re: GomerPyle] #4126500
05/04/24 09:47 AM
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Diversity! Ideally lots of managed open canopy woodland/savanna with frequent fire and a lower presence of mature, closed canopy hardwoods. Scattered stages of pine from clearcut to mature, all managed appropriately with fire, and some longleaf/shortleaf plantation mixed in. Occasional food plots and wildlife openings managed with turkeys in mind. An often overlooked aspect is well managed cattle pasture; ideally an entirely grass fed, rotational grazing operation with little to no use of ivermectin and the like. Nesting and brooding very present on the landscape and in close proximity. Water features throughout. Grassland restoration components, rolling terrain, etc.


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