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Okaloosa County shooting #4129277
05/09/24 05:33 PM
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I didn’t see this posted yet. Hard to watch and breaks my heart.
https://www.wkrg.com/northwest-flor...led-by-okaloosa-deputies-speaks-out/amp/

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129278
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Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129282
05/09/24 06:06 PM
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It looked like a trigger happy cop to me. Happened WAY too fast and the kid didn't really have time to put the gun down before he got popped 6 times.


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Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129284
05/09/24 06:10 PM
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Welll , if it was a screw up it was the guys fault. He should have put the gun down if he was gonna answer the door .

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: DGAMBLER] #4129288
05/09/24 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DGAMBLER
It looked like a trigger happy cop to me. Happened WAY too fast and the kid didn't really have time to put the gun down before he got popped 6 times.



Didn't have time,,, really??????. He had all the time he needed before answering the door


This was a guy in the air force not a kid

Last edited by Frankie; 05/09/24 06:14 PM.
Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129292
05/09/24 06:26 PM
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Door opened by guy with a gun in their hand after Sheriff yelled a few times to open door and identified as Sheriff. Sheriff had a split second to either shoot or possibly get shot.
He made the right call all day long.


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Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129296
05/09/24 06:38 PM
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If he knew it was the Sheriff's Dept at the door, he was foolish to have opened the door with the firearm.

And, the body cam footage from the LEO does show that he did request EMS to the location.

Now, it does seem weird to me, maybe, that if you are going to bang on someone's door that you don't stay within visual range if someone looks through the peephole. Of course, I can see the flip side of that, too, because one never knows if whoever is behind that door had a huge problem with LEO and will just blast through the door. But, I could not hear any TV or music from the apartment and the LEO was announcing himself very loudly...twice. If the Airman did not hear him clearly, then he should have yelled back through the door for the officer to repeat himself.

My gut, however, is that this is gonna go in favor of the victim because of the races involved.

I feel like there is something missing from the story, though. Maybe the apartment manager got the unit number wrong because if the Airman was on Facetime with his girlfriend, then what girl was he fighting with that told the apartment manager that things were getting worse?


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Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129299
05/09/24 06:53 PM
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Anybody can say "sheriff's office open the door" cop shot to quick.

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129313
05/09/24 07:09 PM
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Those apartment doors are probably thin, but I can tell you at my house, if I wasn’t standing AT the door, I wouldn’t hear chit besides someone aggressively knocking on my door. Way too fast to pull the trigger


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Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129326
05/09/24 07:30 PM
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It was a very quick trigger. Will have to wait and see when all the evidence comes out. The reality is that if the cop hesitates then he may not go home at the end of the day.

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129342
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I’m no Leo but that looked way too quick to me. Looked like he was lowering his weapon after opening the door. Like mentioned already there is the race factor involved also

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129343
05/09/24 07:50 PM
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From what I could tell, it didn't appear the man made no attempt to lift the gun up, and as far as I know it's not a crime to answer your door while holding a gun. Not to smart to do so in this situation, but still not a crime. Trigger happy cop, in my opinion.

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129362
05/09/24 08:24 PM
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What a dumb fraker to answer the door with a gun after the officer announced twice sheriff's office open the door. He got exactly what he had coming to him. I guess some of you that didn't agree with it says the cop should've waited till he pointed it at him huh lol.

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Red Fox] #4129378
05/09/24 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Fox
It was a very quick trigger. Will have to wait and see when all the evidence comes out. The reality is that if the cop hesitates then he may not go home at the end of the day.


And what makes his life more valuable than the one that he took?

The guy never raised the gun.

I can legally walk around in my home with a gun in my hand, even when I answer the door.

The officer saw a gun, drew his own firearm, pointed and shot multiple times. Why? There was no threat made toward the officer. He could have just as easily yelled drop the gun AND gave the guy a chance to do so. If the guy attempted to raise the gun THEN shoot.

There will be some issues with this incident.
1. No one from this apartment called the police.
2. The guy wasn’t breaking the law by answering the door with a firearm in his hand.
3. The officer immediately shot multiple times without giving the guy a chance to put down his weapon.


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Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129387
05/09/24 08:49 PM
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I dont what the rules are at that complex but a simple doorbell camera could have prevented that.


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Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Lonster] #4129389
05/09/24 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonster

And what makes his life more valuable than the one that he took?

The guy never raised the gun.

I can legally walk around in my home with a gun in my hand, even when I answer the door.

The officer saw a gun, drew his own firearm, pointed and shot multiple times. Why? There was no threat made toward the officer. He could have just as easily yelled drop the gun AND gave the guy a chance to do so. If the guy attempted to raise the gun THEN shoot.

There will be some issues with this incident.
1. No one from this apartment called the police.
2. The guy wasn’t breaking the law by answering the door with a firearm in his hand.
3. The officer immediately shot multiple times without giving the guy a chance to put down his weapon.



I agree - the deputy was very quick with the gun.


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Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129390
05/09/24 08:55 PM
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Lonster, I didn't say one life was more valuable than the other, I didn't say he raised the gun, I didn't say he was doing anything illegal. I simply pointed out the truths I took from the video. I also said we will have to wait and see when all the evidence comes out. Many times in these instances everyone sees a short video and is quick to pick a side and either convict the shooter or hail him. Everyone has their opinions. I believe it is better to wait until all the evidence is in and then make rational decisions.

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Hunting-231] #4129395
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Originally Posted by Hunting-231
Originally Posted by Lonster

And what makes his life more valuable than the one that he took?

The guy never raised the gun.

I can legally walk around in my home with a gun in my hand, even when I answer the door.

The officer saw a gun, drew his own firearm, pointed and shot multiple times. Why? There was no threat made toward the officer. He could have just as easily yelled drop the gun AND gave the guy a chance to do so. If the guy attempted to raise the gun THEN shoot.

There will be some issues with this incident.
1. No one from this apartment called the police.
2. The guy wasn’t breaking the law by answering the door with a firearm in his hand.
3. The officer immediately shot multiple times without giving the guy a chance to put down his weapon.



I agree - the deputy was very quick with the gun.

I'm not real sure how others see it any differently. The cop wasn't even at the correct apartment, the guy never raised the weapon towards him, and there's nothing wrong with him answering the door to his home with a firearm.

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129400
05/09/24 09:05 PM
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Unless he was deaf or retarded it was his fault. And if you answer the door with a gun after a cop announces atleast twice then you are a fraking moron asking for something stupid to happen.

Re: Okaloosa County shooting [Re: Simpleman] #4129411
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How the officer not at the right apartment? The manager said 1401 and that was what the sign to the left of the door said. Bad situation.There’s no way I would be in law enforcement nowadays.

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