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Had authorization to use deadly force during raid a Maralago
Trump was shown docs during trial today


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The older I get the better I used to be
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Yep the whole system is corrupt and need to hang all the sobs and be done with it.

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Originally Posted by deadeye48
Had authorization to use deadly force during raid a Maralago
Trump was shown docs during trial today

You left out the "when necessary" part. Deadly force is always justified when necessary to protect your life or the life of another.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by deadeye48
Had authorization to use deadly force during raid a Maralago
Trump was shown docs during trial today

You left out the "when necessary" part. Deadly force is always justified when necessary to protect your life or the life of another.



I’m sure Trumps secret service felt the same way

Would have been an interesting firefight when you add in Trumps private protection service

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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by deadeye48
Had authorization to use deadly force during raid a Maralago
Trump was shown docs during trial today

You left out the "when necessary" part. Deadly force is always justified when necessary to protect your life or the life of another.


The article I read from Trump said nothing about “when Necessary”


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Pssstt! Look up April 11 1986 Fbi gunfight. Ever wonder why the Feds swarm like fire ants against one or two shooters? I'm talking 30-50 vs one or two it's because about 83% of those Tactical Brooks Brothers suit wearers look great.....and can barely qualify. Not all of them are C D class shooters about 6 to 9% are really good shots but the rest? Being downrange from them is not necessarily hazardous.


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Copied and pasted directly from the following source. The sentence highlighted in red is my doing. It does sound like it was SOP - don't all LEOs carry the basic things with them? Bolt cutters, I guess, would be the exception.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-administration-authorized-use-of-deadly-force-mar-a-lago-raid

The Biden administration authorized the use of deadly force during the FBI’s raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida in August 2022 as part of its investigation into classified records, court documents revealed.

An "Operations Order" produced in discovery as part of Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into Trump’s alleged improper retention of classified records revealed that the "FBI believed its objective for the Mar-a-Lago raid was to seize ‘classified information, NDI, and US Government records,’" as described in the search warrant.

The order, according to a court filing, contained a "Policy Statement" regarding "Use of Deadly Force," which stated, for example, "Law Enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary."

According to the filing, the DOJ and FBI agents "planned to bring ‘Standard Issue Weapons,' ‘Ammo,’ ‘Handcuffs,’ and ‘medium and large sized bolt cutters,’ but they were instructed to wear ‘unmarked polo or collared shirts’ and to keep ‘law enforcement equipment concealed."

Trump, who spent another day in a New York City courtroom for his unprecedented criminal trial stemming from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s investigation into Trump allegedly falsifying business records, reacted to the revelations Tuesday afternoon.

"WOW! I just came out of the Biden Witch Hunt Trial in Manhattan, the ‘Icebox,’ and was shown Reports that Crooked Joe Biden’s DOJ, in their Illegal and UnConstitutional Raid of Mar-a-Lago, AUTHORIZED THE FBI TO USE DEADLY (LETHAL) FORCE," Trump posted on his Truth Social. "NOW WE KNOW, FOR SURE, THAT JOE BIDEN IS A SERIOUS THREAT TO DEMOCRACY."

Trump added, "HE IS MENTALLY UNFIT TO HOLD OFFICE — 25TH AMENDMENT!"

Neither the Justice Department nor the FBI immediately responded to Fox News Digital's request for comment. The White House did not immediately respond to Fox News Digital's request for comment.

Trump was charged out of Smith’s investigation into his retention of classified materials. Trump pleaded not guilty to all 37 felony charges from Smith’s probe, including willful retention of national defense information, conspiracy to obstruct justice, and false statements.

Trump was also charged with an additional three counts as part of a superseding indictment out of the investigation: a count of willful retention of national defense information and two obstruction counts.

Trump pleaded not guilty.

The federal judge presiding over the case, Judge Aileen Cannon of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, postponed the trial stemming from Smith's case indefinitely. The trial was set to begin May 20.


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Also keep in mind this never would have seen the light of day without the fake trial. How do u insert evidence to show the people? Just like this and gonna be more to come. Wait til Obama enters the picture. By the time it’s over people will learn how evil these folks are and what they have done. Its called a coup.

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So, let me get this straight..

The FBI and Whatever Government Files office had the files on a pallet. They marked a bunch of documents as classified, that weren't classified, and placed them in the boxes on the pallet and told the Presidents team to come get them. Then they sent the FBI to raid his home, including his wifes undies drawer, then charged him with taking classified documents, some of which weren't really classified, but he had the presidential right to regardless. And deadly force was authorized, SOP or on orders doesn't really make a difference to me.

If one soul thinks the Acronym offices aren't corrupt from the Janitor to the top, they're a damned idiot. The entire structure needs torn down to the foundation and rebuilt correctly if at all. I'm as ashamed of my country and government as I could possibly be.

If he gets re-elected, I can't blame him a bit for going scorched earth on the entire US government swamp. I know I would.

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The part that I find troubling is that they were directed to go in in unmarked polo shirts. To me this seems like they were almost goading Trump's security for a fight.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Originally Posted by jawbone
The part that I find troubling is that they were directed to go in in unmarked polo shirts. To me this seems like they were almost goading Trump's security for a fight.

Exactly what they were doing. They’re corrupt.

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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by jawbone
The part that I find troubling is that they were directed to go in in unmarked polo shirts. To me this seems like they were almost goading Trump's security for a fight.

Exactly what they were doing. They’re corrupt.


I'm pretty sure trump's security there is the secret service. Even though the trump family wasn't there I think the secret service was. If I remember the initial reports back when it went down.

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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by jawbone
The part that I find troubling is that they were directed to go in in unmarked polo shirts. To me this seems like they were almost goading Trump's security for a fight.

Exactly what they were doing. They’re corrupt.


I'm pretty sure trump's security there is the secret service. Even though the trump family wasn't there I think the secret service was. If I remember the initial reports back when it went down.

I don't know about SS, but I can assure you his private security was there.


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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by deadeye48
Had authorization to use deadly force during raid a Maralago
Trump was shown docs during trial today

You left out the "when necessary" part. Deadly force is always justified when necessary to protect your life or the life of another.


Then why bother putting it in there if it’s SOP? But nothing was standard about that situation…

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Originally Posted by 700ltr308
The fbi needs to be dismantled


The building needs to be razed to the concrete slab


Then make a park honoring the victims of child trafficking on the property


Put a huge billboard at the entrance stating Never Forget

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Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
Originally Posted by 700ltr308
The fbi needs to be dismantled


The building needs to be razed to the concrete slab


Then make a park honoring the victims of child trafficking on the property


Put a huge billboard at the entrance stating Never Forget


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Why in the heck did they go in hot for documents. It’s rhetorical question but shows their need for gotchas


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And they staged evidence to leak to the media.

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Originally Posted by Fattyfireplug
So, let me get this straight..

The FBI and Whatever Government Files office had the files on a pallet. They marked a bunch of documents as classified, that weren't classified, and placed them in the boxes on the pallet and told the Presidents team to come get them.



Yes on the part where they made Trump take the document.
NO on the parts where they marked the docs as top secret.

The FBI brought those cover sheets for the photo op. They were NOT in the boxes. Here is a question. Which FBI agent went through a PALLET of documents to find ~10 that were TOP SECRET. Did that agent have clearance to look at TOP SECRET docs, and how did they find them so quickly.

They found these docs: Brought those cover sheets with them.

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In this pile of boxes? How long would it take you to search these boxes?

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