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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: CrappieMan] #4160076
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Originally Posted by CrappieMan
Who gives a shucks anyway. These kids are only loyal to a dollar bill! Commitment doesn't mean squat anymore.


Why should/would they be any different? You think the university or coach is loyal to them? Would you want your son to be loyal to a job, a woman, a friend, or anything for that matter, that was just using him to make money, or using him for their personal gain? I sure as heck wouldn't.

If the program or university isn't gaining from them, they send them packing. No matter how committed they have been.

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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by CrappieMan
Who gives a shucks anyway. These kids are only loyal to a dollar bill! Commitment doesn't mean squat anymore.


Why should/would they be any different? You think the university or coach is loyal to them? Would you want your son to be loyal to a job, a woman, a friend, or anything for that matter, that was just using him to make money, or using him for their personal gain? I sure as heck wouldn't.

If the program or university isn't gaining from them, they send them packing. No matter how committed they have been.

Most of them couldn’t make an honest dollar anyway. Loyalty? Most don’t have a clue about loyalty. I saw a bunch of 10-12 yr olds (minorities) being drilled to death by some common everyday thugs (yes thugs because I know them) to be these great football players. Hell, if that group would drill their heads into the book 1/8 of what they drill them into roundball and foosball they would not wind up selling drugs or possibly dead. But that would restore the black community to pre 1960’s status.

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NIL has made millionaires out of 18 year old thugs that have no clue about life, respect, honor or commitment. Make no mistake, the Auburn’s, Alabama’s, FSU’s, whomever are not the team's we grew up with, Shug Jordan, Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden are rolling over in their graves at this crap. The powerhouse teams of the past have been replaced by who has the biggest budget. What a chit show!! Even pro ball has salary caps….


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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: RCHRR] #4160223
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Originally Posted by RCHRR
Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by CrappieMan
Who gives a shucks anyway. These kids are only loyal to a dollar bill! Commitment doesn't mean squat anymore.


Why should/would they be any different? You think the university or coach is loyal to them? Would you want your son to be loyal to a job, a woman, a friend, or anything for that matter, that was just using him to make money, or using him for their personal gain? I sure as heck wouldn't.

If the program or university isn't gaining from them, they send them packing. No matter how committed they have been.

Most of them couldn’t make an honest dollar anyway. Loyalty? Most don’t have a clue about loyalty. I saw a bunch of 10-12 yr olds (minorities) being drilled to death by some common everyday thugs (yes thugs because I know them) to be these great football players. Hell, if that group would drill their heads into the book 1/8 of what they drill them into roundball and foosball they would not wind up selling drugs or possibly dead. But that would restore the black community to pre 1960’s status.


I don't disagree with any of that. I've seen middle and upper class white families doing the exact same thing. Usually it's baseball with them. But I don't have a problem with a college player not being loyal to a coach or university or football program. It is a two way street and all of them are just out to make money. Which is what 99% of Americans are raised to do. Go make as much money as possible.

Re: Heard from a friend [Re: Happysappy] #4160225
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Originally Posted by Happysappy
NIL has made millionaires out of 18 year old thugs that have no clue about life, respect, honor or commitment. Make no mistake, the Auburn’s, Alabama’s, FSU’s, whomever are not the team's we grew up with, Shug Jordan, Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden are rolling over in their graves at this crap. The powerhouse teams of the past have been replaced by who has the biggest budget. What a chit show!! Even pro ball has salary caps….

Originally Posted by Happysappy
NIL has made millionaires out of 18 year old thugs that have no clue about life, respect, honor or commitment. Make no mistake, the Auburn’s, Alabama’s, FSU’s, whomever are not the team's we grew up with, Shug Jordan, Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden are rolling over in their graves at this crap. The powerhouse teams of the past have been replaced by who has the biggest budget. What a chit show!! Even pro ball has salary caps….


I hate to break it to you but the programs with the most money have always been the most successful. The coaches you mentioned and the era you are talking about was not full of loyalty and respect and integrity.

And pro ball only has salary cap on the players. The coaches, management, and owners can all make as much as the market allows them to make. But players... the ones that everyone is paying money to see... they have a cap. Makes a lot of sense huh?

Re: Heard from a friend [Re: Buckwheat] #4160270
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The owners are the ones writing the checks so they're the ones at risk...they should make what the market allows. Let the players break out and form their own thing and get paid just from ticket sales and any tv revenue they can sell...then they can get all that market money. Or go do something else to make market money. No one is twisting their arms to make em play ball.


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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: Buckwheat] #4160364
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How did FSU get more money than Bama?


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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: Happysappy] #4160381
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Originally Posted by Happysappy
NIL has made millionaires out of 18 year old thugs that have no clue about life, respect, honor or commitment. Make no mistake, the Auburn’s, Alabama’s, FSU’s, whomever are not the team's we grew up with, Shug Jordan, Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden are rolling over in their graves at this crap. The powerhouse teams of the past have been replaced by who has the biggest budget. What a chit show!! Even pro ball has salary caps….



You nailed it. I gave up my tickets years ago. I saw this shucks coming.


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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: gman] #4160602
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Originally Posted by gman
The owners are the ones writing the checks so they're the ones at risk...they should make what the market allows. Let the players break out and form their own thing and get paid just from ticket sales and any tv revenue they can sell...then they can get all that market money. Or go do something else to make market money. No one is twisting their arms to make em play ball.


The owners don't set the salary cap. The salary cap is set by the league to try to make things even. It's communism and it also allows the teams with a smaller market share to make a larger profit margin. It keeps their labor costs lower. The salary cap is there so that the teams that can afford to pay better wages don't always win. Where else does that occur in the business world?

Also, who is twisting the owners arm to pay the players? The almighty dollar is. And if you think the players aren't at risk every time they go to work you aren't thinking clearly. One injury could cost them every thing. Much more risk there than the owners.

Re: Heard from a friend [Re: bamaeyedoc] #4160662
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Originally Posted by bamaeyedoc
I’m starting to think this post is horse 💩. It would be all over public forums by now.


now you now why i quit this cluster . how is the stock market

Re: Heard from a friend [Re: oldandwise] #4160684
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Originally Posted by oldandwise
Originally Posted by bamaeyedoc
I’m starting to think this post is horse 💩. It would be all over public forums by now.


now you now why i quit this cluster . how is the stock market


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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: oldandwise] #4160750
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Originally Posted by oldandwise
Originally Posted by bamaeyedoc
I’m starting to think this post is horse 💩. It would be all over public forums by now.


now you now why i quit this cluster . how is the stock market



Yall are taking this forum way to serious….Most all post are bs, that what fan bases do…..You dont look forward to Burbanks annual “Auburn will kickass this year and Alabama dynasty is over” thread.?????


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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: oldandwise] #4160795
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Originally Posted by oldandwise
Originally Posted by bamaeyedoc
I’m starting to think this post is horse 💩. It would be all over public forums by now.


now you now why i quit this cluster . how is the stock market


Welcome back!

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Originally Posted by oldandwise
now you now why i quit this cluster.


It's a shame you didn't stay gone longer.


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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: BC] #4160847
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now you now why i quit this cluster.


It's a shame you didn't stay gone longer.


rofl


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Re: Heard from a friend [Re: Pwyse] #4160876
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by gman
The owners are the ones writing the checks so they're the ones at risk...they should make what the market allows. Let the players break out and form their own thing and get paid just from ticket sales and any tv revenue they can sell...then they can get all that market money. Or go do something else to make market money. No one is twisting their arms to make em play ball.


The owners don't set the salary cap. The salary cap is set by the league to try to make things even. It's communism and it also allows the teams with a smaller market share to make a larger profit margin. It keeps their labor costs lower. The salary cap is there so that the teams that can afford to pay better wages don't always win. Where else does that occur in the business world?

Also, who is twisting the owners arm to pay the players? The almighty dollar is. And if you think the players aren't at risk every time they go to work you aren't thinking clearly. One injury could cost them every thing. Much more risk there than the owners.

From a monetary standpoint, the owners are accepting a far greater risk than that athlete. Anyone in any business is at risk. For players, their business is their body and that is the asset at risk. Smart ones, with good agents, buy the big injury insurance policies from Lloyds of London, just like any smart business owner would. Cry me a river for these players. They are getting paid to play a game for a living. Current salaries are absolutely ridiculous in all pro sports, entertainment, music, etc. People quit watching or paying for merch and tickets and you'd see it all drop back into the world of reality within 12 months. Instead, people just continue to support it.

As far as NIL goes, I pray that the coaches start treating the players exactly like the players are treating the transfer portal. Sign the scholly and if you're not on the field starting in 2 yrs, high on the depth chart, have a couple bad games or whatever, I hope the coaches start telling the players to clean out their lockers mid-season and move on. Scholarships have always been year to year but rarely did coaches not renew a college athlete's scholarship, without cause. The coaches were, and still are, at this point, far more committed to the players, than the players currently are to the schools and coaches. You're not seeing scholarships being yanked left and right but that is exactly what needs to start happening to curb some of this BS that the NCAA has allowed to fester and transpire.

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Originally Posted by Happysappy
Originally Posted by oldandwise
Originally Posted by bamaeyedoc
I’m starting to think this post is horse 💩. It would be all over public forums by now.


now you now why i quit this cluster . how is the stock market



Yall are taking this forum way to serious….Most all post are bs, that what fan bases do…..You dont look forward to Burbanks annual “Auburn will kickass this year and Alabama dynasty is over” thread.?????




I'm ALWAYS serious on here! And usually right!

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