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1031 Exchanges
#4233276
11/21/24 12:21 PM
11/21/24 12:21 PM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 10,555 Scottsboro, Al
jbatey1
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I’m not sure if this falls into that category or not, but is there something that allows you to pull money from investment accounts and put that towards purchase of land or real estate? Without penalties, fees or etc?
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: 1031 Exchanges
[Re: jbatey1]
#4233277
11/21/24 12:23 PM
11/21/24 12:23 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,114 Lower AL
k bush
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Get up with Kirk Neal at Cedar Fork Land Co. He’s pretty sharp on the 1031 stuff
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: 1031 Exchanges
[Re: jbatey1]
#4233454
11/21/24 06:27 PM
11/21/24 06:27 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,584 Kennedy, al
globe
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Since y’all sent me down a rabbit hole, what are the drawbacks? Using my 401k to purchase land without penalty seems like a logical idea that Uncle Sam would never allow.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Re: 1031 Exchanges
[Re: jbatey1]
#4233477
11/21/24 07:13 PM
11/21/24 07:13 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 37,659 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Are we confusing IRS rule ? I thought 1031 exchanges were just that , a property for property swap. Not a purchase , no? We did one once, it was a property for property swap. The accountant handled it, I don't know the number for sure but I thought it was 1031 .
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: 1031 Exchanges
[Re: globe]
#4233485
11/21/24 07:25 PM
11/21/24 07:25 PM
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Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,537 Hoover, AL
GmeHunter
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Since y’all sent me down a rabbit hole, what are the drawbacks? Using my 401k to purchase land without penalty seems like a logical idea that Uncle Sam would never allow. I own a rental property in a self directed solo 401k. You pay an administrator to manage documents and compliance. it cost me $300 a year. Titan Bank will open up a trust checking account for funds. Have the trust open an LLC with a business checking account. Fund it and have the LLC buy property. There are strict rules such as you cannot pay yourself to manage it nor self perform any work. You have to hire and pay somebody to do repairs and maintenance and keep all records. You and your family cannot use the property. If over $250k in assets, you file a 5500 tax return. Your 401k can buy a small business as long as you hire someone to run it.
Last edited by GmeHunter; 11/21/24 07:25 PM.
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Re: 1031 Exchanges
[Re: 2Dogs]
#4233545
11/21/24 08:55 PM
11/21/24 08:55 PM
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Posts: 10,555 Scottsboro, Al
jbatey1
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Are we confusing IRS rule ? I thought 1031 exchanges were just that , a property for property swap. Not a purchase , no? We did one once, it was a property for property swap. The accountant handled it, I don't know the number for sure but I thought it was 1031 . You are probably right. It may only be property for property, so long as the new property is increased in “value”. I assumed it, or something similar, is out there for turning investment accounts into property, but I have no knowledge of it
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: 1031 Exchanges
[Re: kyles]
#4233576
11/21/24 09:47 PM
11/21/24 09:47 PM
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Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,733 Birmingham, Al
akbejeepin
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I checked on it about buying land you cant hunt it. Stopped my inquiry right then I recall reading the same thing. Though I do wonder how the IRS would know.
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Re: 1031 Exchanges
[Re: kyles]
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11/22/24 04:21 AM
11/22/24 04:21 AM
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Posts: 10,667 Alabama
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I checked on it about buying land you cant hunt it. Stopped my inquiry right then Wonder if you could lease it to a hunting club and then join that club.
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Re: 1031 Exchanges
[Re: jbatey1]
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11/22/24 04:58 AM
11/22/24 04:58 AM
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Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,787 Sweet Home
Moss
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Are we confusing IRS rule ? I thought 1031 exchanges were just that , a property for property swap. Not a purchase , no? We did one once, it was a property for property swap. The accountant handled it, I don't know the number for sure but I thought it was 1031 . You are probably right. It may only be property for property, so long as the new property is increased in “value”. I assumed it, or something similar, is out there for turning investment accounts into property, but I have no knowledge of it Self directed IRA. You have to use a company to manage it. I used IRA innovation in Birmingham to purchase land. This☝️☝️☝️
O God, you are my God; early will I seek you. Psalm 63:1
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