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Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: hawndog] #4267225
01/16/25 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hawndog
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
If a manufacturer defined it as buckshot, it’s legal. To my knowledge, the state doesn’t define “buckshot.”

I do not doubt Frankie and the conversation he had with gw. But many of them do not know the laws either. I had one try to write me a ticket for hunting with 00 buckshot until we looked the regs up together on his phone. I feel like a second opinion is in order




be a good question at the next meeting .

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267244
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Never heard of F shot. Smaller than T??

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: lefthorn] #4267248
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Originally Posted by lefthorn
Never heard of F shot. Smaller than T??



i remember right t is .200 and f is .220

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267249
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Oh. Never heard of it

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267254
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T is 5mm, F is 5.5mm and 4 buck is 6mm


take your kids hunting and you won't be hunting your kids
Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267265
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Has anyone shot any gel to see damage compared buckshot?

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Lockjaw] #4267276
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Do they even make TSS buckshot? If its anything like Turkey loads, I am not sure I could afford it.


https://apexmunition.com/product-category/predator-deer-tss/

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267297
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I’ve killed several hogs and one buck with TSS BB and #1.
Homemade stuff. They have something like 60 pellets in a 1.5 oz load.
They don’t bleed well because of small holes but it breaks bones and shuts them down quite well.

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: outdoors1] #4267298
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Originally Posted by outdoors1
Has anyone shot any gel to see damage compared buckshot?

YouTube is full of videos of them with various tests

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Lockjaw] #4267306
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Do they even make TSS buckshot? If its anything like Turkey loads, I am not sure I could afford it.

https://www.super18tungstenshot.com/collections/frontpage

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Zbrann] #4267492
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There are some devastating tss varmint and deer loads out there. [quote=
They don’t bleed well because of small holes but it breaks bones and shuts them down quite well.
[/quote] Is the only downside I can see From where I’m sitting.

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267541
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Take a sharpie and write "I identify as buckshot" on the side of the TSS. Should cover it.

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267569
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Buckshot77
It's legal where I'm at and boy does it work well.



not legal any where in alabama for deer


I run my dogs in Florida

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267571
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by hyco
I’ve loaded 4buck TSS before. It shoots way farther than needed . Now all I use is T’s and F’s . Also switched to using a 20ga now. No need in a heavy 12anymore










as long as its .240" in dia it would be legal .

What if it's not? I know factory OO is usually .32 cal when a 00 is supposed to be 33 cal. and factory #1 is often 28 cal instead of the 30 cal that its supposed to be. What if you open up a #4 buck shell and its actually 23 caliber? It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they aren't smaller. I guess if they are, they're not legal.

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Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: outdoors1] #4267574
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Originally Posted by outdoors1
Has anyone shot any gel to see damage compared buckshot?

I shot deer with it. The holes, though smaller, don't look a whole lot different than a 00 hole. The main difference I find is the bones it breaks that the lead 00 doesn't. When it shatters bones, even at long range, that shattered bone creates a more impressive wound channel.

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Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: hawndog] #4267577
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Originally Posted by hawndog
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Do they even make TSS buckshot? If its anything like Turkey loads, I am not sure I could afford it.

https://www.super18tungstenshot.com/collections/frontpage


I load it my self and have about $5 a shell in it

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Buckshot77] #4267619
01/17/25 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckshot77
Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by hyco
I’ve loaded 4buck TSS before. It shoots way farther than needed . Now all I use is T’s and F’s . Also switched to using a 20ga now. No need in a heavy 12anymore










as long as its .240" in dia it would be legal .

What if it's not? I know factory OO is usually .32 cal when a 00 is supposed to be 33 cal. and factory #1 is often 28 cal instead of the 30 cal that its supposed to be. What if you open up a #4 buck shell and its actually 23 caliber? It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they aren't smaller. I guess if they are, they're not legal.




He stated #4. What I was replying too of course any thing bigger is good

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267624
01/17/25 04:45 PM
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Buckshot77. I can't answer things I don't know. I'm just saying what I was told . T shot is not buck shot and only buckshot is legal. You load shells with pellets thats .240 in size or bigger you good to go

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267669
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There's another thread that got me thinking, does anyone who don't run dogs really still hunt with buckshot?

Re: Tss t shot illegal for deer [Re: Frankie] #4267691
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I run dogs. And use a shotgun about 3/4 the time. When not running dogs I will sometimes use it.

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