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Re: More Biden pardons [Re: Andalusia] #4269374
01/20/25 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Andalusia
Hopefully they will challenge these pre-emptive pardons and the legality of them will be set in stone and eliminate them once and for all.
Absolutely, because if its not, all hell will break loose in America!


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Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269390
01/20/25 09:28 AM
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These will never stand up in court.

Trump needs to pardon his entire family on day one for ANYTHING that they may EVER do in the future to push this to court ASAP.


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Re: More Biden pardons [Re: leroycnbucks] #4269400
01/20/25 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
This kind of power sets a bad precedent that could become norm for all future Presidents that engage in criminal activity. It gives the King/President full authority to run a criminal enterprise with no worries for all involved because President has promised a preemptive pardon.

This needs to be challenged at Supreme Court. Pardons, no matter the party affiliation should not be allowed by presidents or governors.
The president is the head of state, leader of the federal government, and Commander in Chief of the United States armed forces. Not the judicial branch.


So Robert's and Barrett can F us over on the decision?

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269407
01/20/25 09:44 AM
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I know it's all corrupt political BS, but having served 30 years myself, why would an active duty 4 star general who is subject to the UCMJ ever require a pardon for anything. The statement he released on it just pisses me off more, so thankful to the president for looking out for his family. 13 Marine families at Abbey Gate that they never looked out for.

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269413
01/20/25 09:48 AM
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Didn't see this when I posted it earlier. Completely predictable.

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269416
01/20/25 09:50 AM
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Preemptive pardons are guaranteed by the Constitution and was upheld by the Supreme Court (Ex Parte Garland (1866)). Previous Presidents who have used preemptive pardons include Gerald Ford (Richard Nixon 1974), the first George Bush (Iran-Contra affair 1992) and Jimmy Carter (Vietnam draft dodgers, 1977). Those granted preemptive pardons by Joe Biden will never be tried in a federal court.

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269417
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Curious if the states could prosecute ?

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: Beer Belly] #4269420
01/20/25 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly

These will never stand up in court.

Trump needs to pardon his entire family on day one for ANYTHING that they may EVER do in the future to push this to court ASAP.


That may happen today. Trump may pardon the entire US population just to prove the point. In fact, I would be likely to do just that. Everybody is off the hook for murdering Fauci in the future.


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Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269453
01/20/25 10:24 AM
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What a complete sham. Ignore them and proceed. The courts would have to decide.

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269469
01/20/25 10:35 AM
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Satan already has these people and most of them are close to death. It'll sort out. No point in getting upset if you're not willing to take care of it yourself. I'm glad I'm not likely to ever cross paths with Fauci. The time for that was decades before we knew of him.

The root cause of all this evil taking place in DC is voting for people who vote for taxes to fund it.

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: DryFire] #4269480
01/20/25 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DryFire
Preemptive pardons are guaranteed by the Constitution and was upheld by the Supreme Court (Ex Parte Garland (1866)). Previous Presidents who have used preemptive pardons include Gerald Ford (Richard Nixon 1974), the first George Bush (Iran-Contra affair 1992) and Jimmy Carter (Vietnam draft dodgers, 1977). Those granted preemptive pardons by Joe Biden will never be tried in a federal court.


Yep, but now they can't plead the 5th. So, maybe (doubt it) we can get some answers. I don't think it would protect them from future crimes such as lying under oath.

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269499
01/20/25 11:05 AM
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On the bright side, this precedent is a Golden Ticket to Trumps incoming Team to move ahead with deep state house cleaning.







Re: More Biden pardons [Re: zwick] #4269503
01/20/25 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by zwick
On the bright side, this precedent is a Golden Ticket to Trumps incoming Team to move ahead with deep state house cleaning.


Good point, Sir.



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Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269517
01/20/25 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by deadeye48
I’m not so sure these are constitutional because they haven’t been charged or convicted of any crime


We may be finding out soon. Those pardons may be tested and Fauchi would be the one to start with.



And Liz Cheney

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269532
01/20/25 11:23 AM
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My question is can the Jan 6 political prisoners file a class action civil lawsuit against them?

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: DryFire] #4269533
01/20/25 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DryFire
Preemptive pardons are guaranteed by the Constitution and was upheld by the Supreme Court (Ex Parte Garland (1866)). Previous Presidents who have used preemptive pardons include Gerald Ford (Richard Nixon 1974), the first George Bush (Iran-Contra affair 1992) and Jimmy Carter (Vietnam draft dodgers, 1977). Those granted preemptive pardons by Joe Biden will never be tried in a federal court.


They are not when they interfere with constitutional law


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Re: More Biden pardons [Re: imadeerhntr] #4269534
01/20/25 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
My question is can the Jan 6 political prisoners file a class action civil lawsuit against them?


All the out of work lawyers, just got a new job, answering that question, in a very BIGLY way. I AM ALABAMA laugh


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Re: More Biden pardons [Re: fireman176] #4269545
01/20/25 11:31 AM
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The lawlessness is just shameful. Our country will never be as great as it once was until all these entreched traitors are purged.

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Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269559
01/20/25 11:38 AM
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They will all be judged one day just like the rest of us.

Re: More Biden pardons [Re: 2Dogs] #4269563
01/20/25 11:42 AM
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I like what Trump said recently; "Success will be my retribution"
God Bless America

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