William and BPI are both correct. Same statement, same idea. The places and people are the different but under the same 50 year long plan.

WWII was won by working Japan and Germany towards fitting into the plan for victory.

AFTER completely destroying them.

YES! AFTER COMPLETELY DESTROYING THEM!
Trump has defined the conditions for the completed project!
The war objective, which has never been defined.

Sigh.....


Drug cartels aren't evil. They are the product of the market for an illegal product. Just like the mob exploded during Prohibition, the cartels have exploded during the War on Drugs. And guess what, declaring them terrorist and increasing efforts to shut them down will only serve to increase their revenues. Sure, you may kill a bunch of them, but as long as the drug market exists, there will be organizations that supply them.

You will NEVER stomp out radical Islamic terrorism and you will NEVER stomp out illegal drug trafficking. It is impossible to do without a total elimination of civil liberties and even then, it will still exist on the fringes. We can't even stop the drug trade in our prisons and yall think declaring it terrorism is going to stop it? It's insanity. All it does is increase the police state, waste my tax dollars, and erode civil liberties.

The drug cartels have always been bad guy enemies, they know that too.
They never understood why the war against them was always a deal with them?
We never understood that either?

Trump just made the enemy and, Us the United States citizens, line clear.
No more deals with assholes. Kill 'em all.

I agree to disagree. Yeah, if people in the U.S. weren't snorting it up there noses there would be no supply. But there is a Grand Canyon wide difference between your domestic junkie and those who are leading the Cartels. Cause and effect not withstanding. And even though we may never stomp out evil, we all know that we still have to fight it. But you can't fight it until you identify it and call it what it actually is.

Huhhhhhh?

The War on Drugs was never a War, it was a Deal.

The deal is now a War. As it was sold to us.
We want what we thought we were paying for.

Same as dealing with the post office. I want my package, that I paid for, so it would be here yesterday.

That's my point. You can't kill them all. You never will, ever. As long as people in this country want illegal drugs (and they ALWAYS will), there will be organizations that supply those drugs. It's economics 101. Supply and demand. It's total, utter hubris to think that the gov't can change this. The definition of insanity.

So the solution is what ? Let it go ? Traditionally that doesn't work and only makes the problem worse and is one reason why we are where we are currently.. I agree that there will always be evil, but we will always have to fight against it whether it's personally or the government, etc. That's the only solution. At least now we are seeing it labeled as it should be and something is about to be done about it. Something different that will hopefully get different results.

I'm glad the government didn't have this outlook against the Nazi's and the CCCP. China has done nothing but grow in power and influence due to an attitude of "Oh well".

The solution is to apply the Negan method to the right assholes. Once they get the idea, ,then you stand on them and keep them down until they die or quit.
Negan failed because he was the asshole who beat the brains out of the wrong people. Negan should have killed Rick. But the show would have stopped right there..so he killed the other guy.

The cartels run so much more evil than just drugs. The human trafficking. Slavery...you name it. They terrorize the northern half of mexico, so lets just let them keep on keeping on? I don't get that. The dea and local law enforcement have been fighting that "war" with every appendage wrapped around their body and tied. Naming them a terrorist organization unties them and adds the US military. It also tells the weak (and bought) mexican .gov that there are on ROE. It's war. Kill em all and like an old coach of mine said one time in a pre-game speech "if it moves, you stomp it...if it moves you stomp it again". I'm hoping that's what happens.

I hate drugs..an if you makem or sellem…you deserve whats comin

William, claiming a group with seemingly unlimited power who use deception, murder, slavery, trafficking, sex crimes and violence to do business is not evil tells me all I need to know. Not only are you wrong, you’re crazy.

Me too.

They are evil, they cut people's heads off and hang them off of a bridge. They need some Clear and Present Danger type stuff to happen to them

This.

What is your solution?

There will never be a 100% solution but you could make it costly enough to slow it down. Mandatory death penalty for trafficking or sale/possession of more than 16 grams of any hard drug and carry out the sentence immediately.Same penalty for anyone convicted of money laundering for dealers. Never happen but it would dang sure knock it back.