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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: kyles] #4284309
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Originally Posted by kyles

Persactly right to what happened in Jackson county. Looking at the trend line we will suffer a little for it next year. Both in size and numbers


I think that's probably a pretty safe bet.....


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Goatkiller] #4284312
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

This whole thing is forking stupid......

How did you factor in Summer die off from things like EHD? Would that no impact whatever statistical analysis we think we have going on here?

75% of the people I come across don't use Game Check.

I don't have any deer left my neighbors had to have shot at least 40+ this season. Guarantee not one kill made Game Check. How do you account for localized BS like that while at the same time looking at garbage numbers?


By sampling a portion of the hunters to see how their harvest has been effected……If there has been a big die off then you expect hunters to kill less as a result……You don’t have to have every deer reported to see how the ups and downs impact the rest of the hunters…..Kind of like if we had a bunch of guys illegally gill net fishing a lake……We would know the fish population is decreasing when the legal fishermen report catching a lot less……Same concept basically


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: cartervj] #4284344
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Did the hunters of Alabama kill more bucks than dies this year and seasons past. Or is it the same or more does than bucks killed. Is the sex ratio still being skewed since natural mortality is higher in bucks?


As a total yes we killed more bucks than does but you really need to look at that on a county by county basis......There's a big difference between them


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: kyles] #4284362
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Originally Posted by kyles
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Total acorn failure offset with corn got a lot of deer killed in my neck of the woods. People that usually kill a couple of dinks every year killed 2 or 3 good bucks.


I believe you are correct , Sir. If you didn't have other food sources , or didn't bait better than your neighbors , you probably didn't have a very enjoyable season.

Persactly right to what happened in Jackson county. Looking at the trend line we will suffer a little for it next year. Both in size and numbers


So here's a question for you now off of that assumption……Looking at the data and knowing this is likely to be the case…..Does that influence your doe harvesting strategy moving into next season if you're in Jackson Co??

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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4284535
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Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Stickers] #4284636
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Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....

Some of the biggest bucks I've seen coming out of Marengo and surrounding counties this year.


Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Stickers] #4284638
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Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....


Its an overall population decrease in many areas along with a decrease in buck age structure for many folks as well…..Not as many deer and not as many mature bucks


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4284647
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by kyles
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by ridgestalker
Total acorn failure offset with corn got a lot of deer killed in my neck of the woods. People that usually kill a couple of dinks every year killed 2 or 3 good bucks.


I believe you are correct , Sir. If you didn't have other food sources , or didn't bait better than your neighbors , you probably didn't have a very enjoyable season.

Persactly right to what happened in Jackson county. Looking at the trend line we will suffer a little for it next year. Both in size and numbers


So here's a question for you now off of that assumption……Looking at the data and knowing this is likely to be the case…..Does that influence your doe harvesting strategy moving into next season if you're in Jackson Co??


No.



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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4284657
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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4284723
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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4284770
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Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....


Its an overall population decrease in many areas along with a decrease in buck age structure for many folks as well…..Not as many deer and not as many mature bucks

rofl


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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: CNC] #4284844
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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Stickers] #4284956
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Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....



The hunting in the black belt is starting to suck bigtime. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that there are FAR less total deer here than just a couple years ago. It is insanely obvious to anyone who hunts here consistently like I do

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Nightwatchman] #4284960
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Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....



The hunting in the black belt is starting to suck bigtime. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that there are FAR less total deer here than just a couple years ago. It is insanely obvious to anyone who hunts here consistently like I do

I’ve noticed it too

Some properties with real good habitat have less than ideal populations and buck quality is not good either. I attribute that more to high grading by neighbors than a habitat issue though.

Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: Mbrock] #4285491
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....



The hunting in the black belt is starting to suck bigtime. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that there are FAR less total deer here than just a couple years ago. It is insanely obvious to anyone who hunts here consistently like I do

I’ve noticed it too

Some properties with real good habitat have less than ideal populations and buck quality is not good either. I attribute that more to high grading by neighbors than a habitat issue though.





it's why Colorado had to go draw only statewide. massive amount of hunters and not enough resources. this 3 month rifle season in alabama has to go no need to rifle hunt for 3 straight months.

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I think we should all buy really nice cameras and take pictures of the deer. Not like a trail camera pics, that's too easy . I'm talking about scouting, hanging stands, cutting picture lanes, etc. No kills for 2 yrs. We can post our pics on here and get our egos stroked.

What y'all think?


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Originally Posted by mathews prostaff
Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....



The hunting in the black belt is starting to suck bigtime. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that there are FAR less total deer here than just a couple years ago. It is insanely obvious to anyone who hunts here consistently like I do

I’ve noticed it too

Some properties with real good habitat have less than ideal populations and buck quality is not good either. I attribute that more to high grading by neighbors than a habitat issue though.





it's why Colorado had to go draw only statewide. massive amount of hunters and not enough resources. this 3 month rifle season in alabama has to go no need to rifle hunt for 3 straight months.


Oh no ! You've done it now !



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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: eclipse829] #4285575
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Originally Posted by eclipse829
I think we should all buy really nice cameras and take pictures of the deer. Not like a trail camera pics, that's too easy . I'm talking about scouting, hanging stands, cutting picture lanes, etc. No kills for 2 yrs. We can post our pics on here and get our egos stroked.

What y'all think?

This is a real thing and not photoshopped. There was a character on a TV show years ago that did this. He was supposed to be a hunter that got tired of killing deer but still enjoyed the "hunt". He did exactly what you are describing and used one of these cameras to get the "feel" of hunting.

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Re: Season Predictions: The Final Tally [Re: mathews prostaff] #4285586
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Originally Posted by mathews prostaff
Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Originally Posted by Stickers
Something going on with bucks in the Black Belt....



The hunting in the black belt is starting to suck bigtime. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that there are FAR less total deer here than just a couple years ago. It is insanely obvious to anyone who hunts here consistently like I do

I’ve noticed it too

Some properties with real good habitat have less than ideal populations and buck quality is not good either. I attribute that more to high grading by neighbors than a habitat issue though.





it's why Colorado had to go draw only statewide. massive amount of hunters and not enough resources. this 3 month rifle season in alabama has to go no need to rifle hunt for 3 straight months.


There's such a huge swing in rut times here that it would be hard to do that right. I would prefer lowering the bag limits and / or antler restrictions while leaving the season as-is.

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