I know 2 owners of state approved grows here where I live, 1 pretty well which also owns a "pot shop" and zero product/money goes to cartels lol. My info doesn't come from the internet or youtube videos btw. One of those owners has a contract to dump his waste water on the farm I frequently work with in specified fields since it cannot go in to public sewer. I also know a few that grow hemp, another subject but, I can get you guys a discount on "safe" hemp products from one I know in Maine. On a side note, I voted NO for legalization.

Black markets come with any governmental regulation. That's nothing to do with the actual product. If it's completely legal, that problem ends.

Pot is not physically addictive in terms of having withdrawals like if any of us stop having our morning coffee. I've quit coffee a few times. Two weeks of headaches! Wanting a cup just because you like it, and decaf never tastes right, or appreciating the benefit of getting your business done before leaving the house instead of against a tree while hunting is not addiction.

The example above of using an one-half to one ounce per week is an unreasonable comparison when you consider how extreme an amount that is. That's like smoking a pack of cigarettes per week, but it's pot. I understand the pot they're selling nowadays is many times more potent than 20 years ago. Smoking more than three huge joints per day and being functional? Extreme.

I don’t believe there is any doubt that cannabis is easier on your body than the prescription drugs the doctor provides. Except for the people that smoke it. Then its killing your lungs. I can’t understand why anyone would put any type of smoke into their lungs. Thats just asking for problems. Especially with alternate methods available for both cannabis and nicotine.

I know a fella who went from zombie on pharmaceuticals to going back to work and becoming active again by micro-dosing shrooms. If you look at the big picture, temporally, these ideas about regulating drugs and making treatments the province of a federal agency and a couple NGOs is really weird.

For instance, I have a problem which was treated with gabapentin. I didn't know until after I was taking it that people become addicted and it's not uncommon to develop suicidal tendencies. I weaned off ASAP and am suffering with the problem without it. If it gets worse, I'll be trying a different recommended treatment which happens to be pot.

Oklahoma legalized medical marijuana. Now the chinese cartels control most of the growing market in that state.

If there are any government prohibitions or regulations, there will be a black or grey market. Unpasteurized whole milk is a prime example. You can't go to a local farm and buy for human consumption. You can buy it for your pets. It will be labeled so. I grew up drinking that stuff because grandpa would bring a bucket to the house after milking was done.

This has nada to do with pot, specifically.

It still is a problem Correct?

The previous argument was with legalization the illegal activities would cease

That was the premise of my post

Pot has problems too. I realize you don’t want wanna admit that but it’s not all positive and no negatives. Depending on how it’s consumed whether smoked or oral or dermal, there are risk.


The funny thing to me is just like table salt. As long as I can remember studies have shown we Americans consume too much. Not enough and just the right amount on average. Just depends on the year and who his financing the studies.

Same with pot any other drug.

Pot has shown they numerous studies to cause psychosis for some young folks and even older folks. It’s not a positive experience for ALL.
Saying that tells me you have an agenda just like everyone else. At least be honest about it lol. We all have an opinion and it is the correct one, right?

Water is necessary for life. Drinking too much water will put you in the hospital.

Discussing every possible counterpoint is literally retarded. If you're going to have worthwhile opinions you have to come to the table with a reasonable bank of knowledge held by all parties. You don't need to say pot harms developing brains. Everyone knows that. It's not part of the discussion. You don't need to cite skewed studies out of context. Everyone knows why.

Healthy people using pot reasonably don't have problems. Unregulated goods aren't traded on black markets. Crime cannot develop from black markets if they don't exist.

These are not opinions.

Yea that is your opinion based on your biases and beliefs

Some of those studies have shown pot caused psychosis in late teens thru mid twenties

Smoking pot, studies show it to be more carcinogenic than cigs

I wonder what that means specifically.....I understand what psychosis means but I wonder what happened specifically with the folks that they classified as having pot induced psychosis......It would be more interesting to understand the context of what happened instead of just the generality.....I had a buddy who gave his girlfriend who had never smoked pot before a gummy one time and she tripped smooth out for a little while……I’ve never taken one of them but from what everyone says you don’t want to overdo it…..So for someone who has never experienced weed in any form to overdo it on the first try like that, I could see where that might get classified as experiencing psychosis…

Why do we keep having this discussion? It always turns out the same way. The bottom line is- use cannabis if you want too, If you don’t want to then dont. Its actually pretty simple.

The reason I posted as stated earlier. If legalized criminal entities would no longer exist has been pounded in. It was pointed out then as now simply not true. That’s the only reason I posted it. I watch a lot of YouTube and when I saw it I was like there it is again.

Personally I could care less what anyone does. As long as it doesn’t trample someone else’s rights.

I’ve been around pot my entire life.

The last one I saw stated individuals required institutionalizations. Whether that was 1 hr, 1 week or since I do not know.
Mushrooms is more so and it’s becoming as prevalent.

So how can making something that was illegal, then becomes legal, make the criminal aspects greater than before it was legal??? Look at prohibition. When alcohol became illegal then criminal organizations selling it illegally thrived. People are going to use cannabis whether its illegal or not. When it becomes legal and you can buy it legally if you are over 21 then how in the world is it gonna make criminals more involved in it?????? Where is the profit for them in it?? There are all kinds of legal products out there that can have bad effects on you if used unwisely. They dont have criminal organizations running them. Making something legal and more criminals getting involved just doesnt make sense.

It was a running joke at work when I retired. Always told them I was gonna roll one the size of a Cuban cigar. Still have not done it.

I’ve always found it hysterical when people say it’s not addictive, but then refuse to stop using.

Cant stand the smell of that stuff, or cigarettes far as that goes.

Yes sir!