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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: bill]
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03/03/25 07:50 PM
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canvasback
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Thanks for sharing bill! Very helpful, concise info from RFK Jr.
Eff Zelensky.
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: jawbone]
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03/03/25 08:16 PM
03/03/25 08:16 PM
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cartervj
Freak of Nature
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Am I the only one that can't stand listening to RFK? He sounds like he should be on a ventilator. I don't like listening to him also but he does say some things that need to be heard. Back to the topic at hand, with each passing hour I'm becoming more convinced that Zelenskyy does not want the war to end and everything Trump is saying is spot on. In no way does this make me pro-Putin or against the Ukrainian people, but just anti-Zelenskyy. I'm anti-Putin and anti-Zelenskyy but still want Ukraine to prevail in the war. You was all about some Zelensky yesterday...  What's changed your mind? Are you just now figuring out he is just another crooked politician (Dictator)...We just need to dust our feet of the whole bunch....02 Work on your reading comprehension. I've never been "All about Zelensky (sic)" as you say. I've been vocal about being anti-Putin more than anything while at the same time pro the Ukranian people. I thought Z did an amazing job rallying his people when this started and has failed miserably as a leader seeking a resolution. This belief only grows with each new news cycle. You gotta get in line lol.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: bill]
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03/03/25 08:23 PM
03/03/25 08:23 PM
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twaldrop4
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I don’t think Putin is a good guy but he’s done exactly what he’s said he was gonna do since at least the bush days and whether you like it or not alot of his predictions have come true. I don’t think he is a good guy or anything like that but he’s done exactly seems to be consistent. That’s more than can be said for about 99% of “leaders”
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: bill]
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03/03/25 08:49 PM
03/03/25 08:49 PM
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Fattyfireplug
Old Mossy Horns
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Big Bad
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Little Bad
= None of our fuggin business. Stay out of it.
If NATO, UN or Euro Union wants to get involved, have at it.
Not our monkeys. Not our circus. Europe deserves ever bad thing that happens to the shit hole. They've been nothing but trouble for centuries.
Our current Government, from at least the 90's on, is equally as bad and need dead because of it.
I'm tired of the endless wars, constant and heavy taxes and no accountability. Time for shit to change.
The sooner everyone gets on board with it, the better. If you don't, you need dead too.
Last edited by Fattyfireplug; 03/03/25 08:51 PM.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: bill]
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03/03/25 09:58 PM
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Marion, Fayette, Lamar, piddli...
Lonster
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I’ll see your stand against the war in Ukraine and raise you to ANY foreign war that we have no business sticking our nose in.
I’m 56 years-old and I’ve worked and paid taxes since I was 16. We have been at war with someone my entire life! The ONLY issue on our soil was the 9/11 “attack” and I’m not so sure that our very own government didn’t orchestrate that. Someone is going to attack us and not target the White House and the Pentagon? Just attack civilians at work and non of our government offices and leaders?
My entire life we have been in the business of bombing the shit out of others THEN giving them billions of dollars and rebuilding better structures than what we destroyed. Meanwhile, folks right here in the Land of Milk and Honey, work their asses off to barely survive while financing this nonsense.
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: Geeb]
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03/03/25 10:21 PM
03/03/25 10:21 PM
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Broadhead26
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Am I still crazy for wanting Z to step aside and letting a diplomat take over now that peace is near? Putin is an evil man. Anyone that disagrees with that is the one that needs to have their heads examined. I want them to come out of this looking like the loser, but more than anything, I want the killing stopped. I am a pragmatic person so I think that Russia will end up with some of the territory it invaded, but not the whole country like Putin wants.
Again, I don't view this as the U.S. needs to be all in for either side. I don't think Trump does either. I think he has said as much as that. That is how you bring about peace.
I think Z was what Ukraine needed at the start but he has shot his wad. Great leader at the start but failing miserably as a diplomat to end this. He needs to go. As much as I don't like saying this, if he is not willing to give concessions, then it is time for us to walk away. That will lead to just many more lives lost over there. This has to end or we will be looking at WWIII. Z being a "great leader at the start"...that's laughable! Objectively, the entire international community expected Ukraine to fall within 3 days during the initial invasion. Not only is it standing 3 years later, but he didn’t flee when I’m certain the vast majority of those in his shoes would have. By no means am I saying he’s their best shot at the moment, but you have to at least give him credit where credit is due.
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: bill]
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03/03/25 10:43 PM
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Bronco 74
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General George Patton had the right idea in WW 2. All you youngsters read your history books.
"We have an opponent in this state that we work every day, 365 days a year, to dominate."
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/03/25 10:48 PM
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If ukraine was a sovereign nation they could exist without begging others for help. That’s a high measuring stick. Most countries exist because we allow them to. We could over throw them if we wanted.
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/03/25 10:54 PM
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cartervj
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If ukraine was a sovereign nation they could exist without begging others for help. If we hadn’t told them they couldn’t have nukes they’d been fine We also promised we’d protect them if they were attacked since they did away with their nukes
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/03/25 10:58 PM
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If ukraine was a sovereign nation they could exist without begging others for help. Well, there it is you guys. …the dumbest thing i’m going to read all month. And it just started….
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: Pwyse]
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03/03/25 11:06 PM
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bill
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If ukraine was a sovereign nation they could exist without begging others for help. That’s a high measuring stick. Most countries exist because we allow them to. We could over throw them if we wanted. We did. In 2014 The Obama administration overthrew Ukraines democratically elected president and installed our own puppet which lead to Zelensky coming to power later.
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: cartervj]
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03/03/25 11:07 PM
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bill
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If ukraine was a sovereign nation they could exist without begging others for help. If we hadn’t told them they couldn’t have nukes they’d been fine We also promised we’d protect them if they were attacked since they did away with their nukes And Ukraine promised not to pursue Nato, so....
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate"
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: Bronco 74]
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03/03/25 11:57 PM
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General George Patton had the right idea in WW 2. All you youngsters read your history books. Indeed.
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: bill]
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03/04/25 06:49 AM
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cartervj
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If ukraine was a sovereign nation they could exist without begging others for help. If we hadn’t told them they couldn’t have nukes they’d been fine We also promised we’d protect them if they were attacked since they did away with their nukes And Ukraine promised not to pursue Nato, so.... Pushed by whom? There we go meddling again. I can’t think of a single continent where we are not meddling. The whole truth has to be delivered otherwise it’s just propagandized
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: Broadhead26]
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03/04/25 07:51 AM
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jwalker77
Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
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If ukraine was a sovereign nation they could exist without begging others for help. Well, there it is you guys. …the dumbest thing i’m going to read all month. And it just started…. Enlighten me as to how this statement is dumb. Start with the definition of the word soverign.
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: jwalker77]
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03/04/25 08:21 AM
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marshmud991
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If ukraine was a sovereign nation they could exist without begging others for help. Well, there it is you guys. …the dumbest thing i’m going to read all month. And it just started…. Enlighten me as to how this statement is dumb. Start with the definition of the word soverign. Interested also!!
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: I stand against Zelensky and this war
[Re: Backwards cowboy]
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03/04/25 08:39 AM
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Russians fighting Russians, with my money, been saying it since the beginning! Can someone please explain to my just exactly what is this great russia threat. If it's nukes, ukraine has zero to do with stopping that, are we really afraid they're gonna attack us by ground? If so ukraine has zero to do with that. When I was in the second grade, we had to practice getting under a desk, because Russia was gonna Nuke us. It was bs then and it is now. It's just an effective way of keeping everyone on one side of the fence or the other ( dem or rep). THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT CROOKS!!!! Geebus, the end must be in sight...i'm agreeing with the backwards one 
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