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Re: More air traffic problems
[Re: Michael256]
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04/10/25 07:31 PM
04/10/25 07:31 PM
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Hoover
Fattyfireplug
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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I must have missed the part where I was whining. I swear you guys should get disability and DEI for your paper thin skin. You can’t debate if the sky is blue without name calling lol. I'm not the one coming on a forum erroneously blaming someone for things they have no control over. You repeatedly do it and you're repeatedly wrong. Your not the only one either. The only person I know of that tolerates bullshit less than I is Bham Fred. If you're gonna keep doing it, then you're gonna keep getting called on it. He called you on it. You were wrong. But you try to create a means of justifying you were less wrong than you were. A man with any sort of ethics to them would admit they're wrong. But...well... it is what it is. I don't debate Arese holes or idiots. I'd much rather argue with a stop sign. It would be more productive.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Re: More air traffic problems
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
#4309882
04/10/25 08:01 PM
04/10/25 08:01 PM
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Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,436
FL
mw2015
12 point
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12 point
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Posts: 5,436
FL
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I must have missed the part where I was whining. I swear you guys should get disability and DEI for your paper thin skin. You can’t debate if the sky is blue without name calling lol. I'm not the one coming on a forum erroneously blaming someone for things they have no control over. You repeatedly do it and you're repeatedly wrong. Your not the only one either. The only person I know of that tolerates bullshit less than I is Bham Fred. If you're gonna keep doing it, then you're gonna keep getting called on it. He called you on it. You were wrong. But you try to create a means of justifying you were less wrong than you were. A man with any sort of ethics to them would admit they're wrong. But...well... it is what it is. I don't debate Arese holes or idiots. I'd much rather argue with a stop sign. It would be more productive. The ignore button is the solution. It works. 
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Re: More air traffic problems
[Re: mw2015]
#4309884
04/10/25 08:04 PM
04/10/25 08:04 PM
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 15,619
Hoover
Fattyfireplug
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Hoover
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I must have missed the part where I was whining. I swear you guys should get disability and DEI for your paper thin skin. You can’t debate if the sky is blue without name calling lol. I'm not the one coming on a forum erroneously blaming someone for things they have no control over. You repeatedly do it and you're repeatedly wrong. Your not the only one either. The only person I know of that tolerates bullshit less than I is Bham Fred. If you're gonna keep doing it, then you're gonna keep getting called on it. He called you on it. You were wrong. But you try to create a means of justifying you were less wrong than you were. A man with any sort of ethics to them would admit they're wrong. But...well... it is what it is. I don't debate Arese holes or idiots. I'd much rather argue with a stop sign. It would be more productive. The ignore button is the solution. It works. Never used it before but I'm sorely temped.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Re: More air traffic problems
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
#4309887
04/10/25 08:10 PM
04/10/25 08:10 PM
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Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 5,436
FL
mw2015
12 point
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I must have missed the part where I was whining. I swear you guys should get disability and DEI for your paper thin skin. You can’t debate if the sky is blue without name calling lol. I'm not the one coming on a forum erroneously blaming someone for things they have no control over. You repeatedly do it and you're repeatedly wrong. Your not the only one either. The only person I know of that tolerates bullshit less than I is Bham Fred. If you're gonna keep doing it, then you're gonna keep getting called on it. He called you on it. You were wrong. But you try to create a means of justifying you were less wrong than you were. A man with any sort of ethics to them would admit they're wrong. But...well... it is what it is. I don't debate Arese holes or idiots. I'd much rather argue with a stop sign. It would be more productive. The ignore button is the solution. It works. Never used it before but I'm sorely temped. I only used it once before but this calls for using it again. You won’t see any of his posts.
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Re: More air traffic problems
[Re: roadkill]
#4309958
04/11/25 05:30 AM
04/11/25 05:30 AM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 4,873
Lower Alabama
Andalusia
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 4,873
Lower Alabama
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[quote]I only used it once before but this calls for using it again. You won’t see any of his posts. [quote]
Thank you. Wow, never knew that was an option and never felt like I needed that option until recently. Very handy! Thanks. Maybe when Skinny "changed the oil" recently there was some sludge that got stirred up and it hasn't hit the "oil filter" yet 
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"
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Re: More air traffic problems
[Re: Michael256]
#4310024
04/11/25 09:48 AM
04/11/25 09:48 AM
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 11,867
Walker county
Driveby
Doing the best I can.
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Doing the best I can.
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 11,867
Walker county
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I know I’m going to catch yet another TDS accusation here but objectively speaking it sure seems like Americas air safety really went down fast. Trump got elected and now it’s crash after crash. Trump got elected and now it’s crash after crash. It definitely feels like there is a correlation. Thankfully they’ve been mostly small craft and no jumbo jet filled with 300 people but I still feel for the lives lost and their families all the same. Try again: 2024: January: 80 aviation accidents, February: 93 aviation accidents, Total between January 1 and February 21: 150 aviation incidents, and Fatal crashes: 30. 2025 (as of February 27): January: 63 aviation accidents, February: 36 aviation accidents, Total between January 1 and February 21: 99 aviation incidents, and Fatal crashes: 14 I think the size of the aircraft involved is a factor. Multiple sources tell me that while the overall amount of crashes is less, fatalities is over double.. at least through Feb. which makes sense as this is the first time a major airliner has been involved in a crash since like 20 years ago. So in a way we’re both right. You’re right that the number of individual crashes are down (a lot of which we probably never hear about) but I’m right that actual death count is higher, which would drive more media awareness. There were 85 air traffic deaths in January and February of 2025. One crash....ONE....accounted for 67 of those deaths. That is the one and only reason the death toll is higher. If you take away that one crash then the deaths from 2025 is significantly lower than 2024. Scenario: You have 2 roads to travel. One stretch of road has had 20 accidents accounting for 10 deaths. The other stretch has had only 3 accidents but unfortunately one of those involved a bus and 25 people on board were killed. Statistically speaking, which is the safer road for you to travel? The answer is the first road. So, for you to say " Americas air safety really went down fast. Trump got elected and now it’s crash after crash." is completely baseless, especially the "crash after crash" part because you are alluding to the number of crashes, not fatalities. So to summarize, no, were were not "both right". Your assertion that "Americas air safety really went down fast" is wrong, completely and totally wrong.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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Re: More air traffic problems
[Re: Driveby]
#4310040
04/11/25 11:24 AM
04/11/25 11:24 AM
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Posts: 7,065
Mobile, AL
Pwyse
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Mobile, AL
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I know I’m going to catch yet another TDS accusation here but objectively speaking it sure seems like Americas air safety really went down fast. Trump got elected and now it’s crash after crash. Trump got elected and now it’s crash after crash. It definitely feels like there is a correlation. Thankfully they’ve been mostly small craft and no jumbo jet filled with 300 people but I still feel for the lives lost and their families all the same. Try again: 2024: January: 80 aviation accidents, February: 93 aviation accidents, Total between January 1 and February 21: 150 aviation incidents, and Fatal crashes: 30. 2025 (as of February 27): January: 63 aviation accidents, February: 36 aviation accidents, Total between January 1 and February 21: 99 aviation incidents, and Fatal crashes: 14 I think the size of the aircraft involved is a factor. Multiple sources tell me that while the overall amount of crashes is less, fatalities is over double.. at least through Feb. which makes sense as this is the first time a major airliner has been involved in a crash since like 20 years ago. So in a way we’re both right. You’re right that the number of individual crashes are down (a lot of which we probably never hear about) but I’m right that actual death count is higher, which would drive more media awareness. There were 85 air traffic deaths in January and February of 2025. One crash....ONE....accounted for 67 of those deaths. That is the one and only reason the death toll is higher. If you take away that one crash then the deaths from 2025 is significantly lower than 2024. Scenario: You have 2 roads to travel. One stretch of road has had 20 accidents accounting for 10 deaths. The other stretch has had only 3 accidents but unfortunately one of those involved a bus and 25 people on board were killed. Statistically speaking, which is the safer road for you to travel? The answer is the first road. So, for you to say " Americas air safety really went down fast. Trump got elected and now it’s crash after crash." is completely baseless, especially the "crash after crash" part because you are alluding to the number of crashes, not fatalities. So to summarize, no, were were not "both right". Your assertion that "Americas air safety really went down fast" is wrong, completely and totally wrong. Great post Driveby
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