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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: CD]
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04/16/25 04:19 PM
04/16/25 04:19 PM
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Conecuh county
hallb
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This might be an unpopular opinion, and I agree the MLF guy is likely gonna be at fault here, BUT…a professional fishing guide should’ve known that a wave of tournament fishermen would be headed his way. If the fog was thick, I’d personally be trying to get towards the bank and out of the boat lanes in case some idiot comes rolling through. I don’t know if they were fishing, or motoring at the time, but he should’ve known that 150 boats were upriver from him and almost all of them would be headed downstream. The way Smith lays out, any tournament that launches out of the park will have almost every boater running downriver through the Miller Flats area. Just seems like that aspect is being overlooked by most. Again, I feel like the tournament fisherman will be ruled at fault, and most likely justifiably so, but it seems like the guide could’ve done his part to help prevent the accident as well. Unpopular with me. Just b/c they are having a tournament doesn't mean you get to ignore basic boater safety.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: AU338MAG]
#4311673
04/16/25 04:27 PM
04/16/25 04:27 PM
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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I'm betting that some lawyers are going to go after the tournament, sponsors and the tour for negligence.
Big payouts on the way. And may be wholly justified and not some frivolous lawsuit. I imagine the tournament has liability insurance. If not, the sponsors had better be trying to hide their assets. If one of those tourney fishermen killed one of my family members while running wide open in the fog, I'd be looking for some way for them to make amends. I know monetary gains wouldn't get it done, but I'd lie awake at night trying to think of something. Yep, this aint the time to call Alex. Hire a real law firm because this situation demands that a lot of people have to write checks. Yep, you wouldn't want a lawyer who is only interested in a Settlement if you decided to go the lawsuit route. Someone should be held to account one way or another for this. Is Jere Beasley still around? I know he'll take a case to trial because I've been on a jury and seen it him in action. Yes, he'll take a settlement because they eventually did in the case I was on, but I guarantee it was more than other lawyers would have settled for.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: hallb]
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04/16/25 04:28 PM
04/16/25 04:28 PM
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Northport, AL
GomerPyle
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This might be an unpopular opinion, and I agree the MLF guy is likely gonna be at fault here, BUT…a professional fishing guide should’ve known that a wave of tournament fishermen would be headed his way. If the fog was thick, I’d personally be trying to get towards the bank and out of the boat lanes in case some idiot comes rolling through. I don’t know if they were fishing, or motoring at the time, but he should’ve known that 150 boats were upriver from him and almost all of them would be headed downstream. The way Smith lays out, any tournament that launches out of the park will have almost every boater running downriver through the Miller Flats area. Just seems like that aspect is being overlooked by most. Again, I feel like the tournament fisherman will be ruled at fault, and most likely justifiably so, but it seems like the guide could’ve done his part to help prevent the accident as well. Unpopular with me. Just b/c they are having a tournament doesn't mean you get to ignore basic boater safety. He wasn't excusing the tournament guys from fault, but he has a valid point. It's no different than the cyclist that rides his bike down a busy road during rush hour and gets hit and killed by car. He 100% has every right to be there...but that doesn't make it a smart decision and doesn't make him any less dead when he gets run over due to other people's negligence.
Last edited by GomerPyle; 04/16/25 04:29 PM.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: wew3006]
#4311687
04/16/25 04:55 PM
04/16/25 04:55 PM
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N Alabama
zwick
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Every boat has a captain and final decisions related to safety are his alone. I learned that when I was 14.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: GomerPyle]
#4311690
04/16/25 05:02 PM
04/16/25 05:02 PM
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Hoover
Fattyfireplug
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This might be an unpopular opinion, and I agree the MLF guy is likely gonna be at fault here, BUT…a professional fishing guide should’ve known that a wave of tournament fishermen would be headed his way. If the fog was thick, I’d personally be trying to get towards the bank and out of the boat lanes in case some idiot comes rolling through. I don’t know if they were fishing, or motoring at the time, but he should’ve known that 150 boats were upriver from him and almost all of them would be headed downstream. The way Smith lays out, any tournament that launches out of the park will have almost every boater running downriver through the Miller Flats area. Just seems like that aspect is being overlooked by most. Again, I feel like the tournament fisherman will be ruled at fault, and most likely justifiably so, but it seems like the guide could’ve done his part to help prevent the accident as well. Unpopular with me. Just b/c they are having a tournament doesn't mean you get to ignore basic boater safety. He wasn't excusing the tournament guys from fault, but he has a valid point. It's no different than the cyclist that rides his bike down a busy road during rush hour and gets hit and killed by car. He 100% has every right to be there...but that doesn't make it a smart decision and doesn't make him any less dead when he gets run over due to other people's negligence. I don't check for tournaments when I go to the lake. Should I? Maybe. But it's not a private lake. Anyone should be able to feel safe to go anywhere at any time on any lake. They shouldn't have to worry about tournament participants driving like maniacs just to catch a fuggin fish. If the other boat was a charter, as I've heard, maybe they should have been aware of a tournament. But they still should be perfectly safe on that water with no expectation of being killed for trying to catch a fish. It could have been any of us. What was preventable? The speeds of those tournament participants. The tournament not waiting for fog to lift. Personal decision and business decision. Either one could have saved lives. But...fish and money.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: wew3006]
#4311693
04/16/25 05:08 PM
04/16/25 05:08 PM
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chilton, co.
hayman
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It would be fine and dandy with me if they abolished tournament fishing of any kind. I hate having to deal with them.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: wew3006]
#4311695
04/16/25 05:10 PM
04/16/25 05:10 PM
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behind my Dillon
dave260rem!
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Doofus running through fog should be charged with negligent homicide. Tournament officials not delaying start should be charged with criminal stupidity and meet the deceased family members outside.
Skinny is my EX.Alcohol was involved.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: wew3006]
#4311701
04/16/25 05:23 PM
04/16/25 05:23 PM
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Posts: 15,946
ArmPit of the south
DeerNutz0U812_
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How do you predict what kind fog is gonna be and cancel the tourney when some of these guys are driving hundreds of miles in 3 days tourny....No way can you hold the tournament liable for not cancelling...Fog is tricky and I would imagine in some of those deep hollers around Smith Lake there is now way to know whats around the corner of some of those mountains...I dont see the tourney being negligent myself...IDK I wasnt there....
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: DeerNutz0U812_]
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04/16/25 05:56 PM
04/16/25 05:56 PM
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Birmingham
wew3006
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How do you predict what kind fog is gonna be and cancel the tourney when some of these guys are driving hundreds of miles in 3 days tourny....No way can you hold the tournament liable for not cancelling...Fog is tricky and I would imagine in some of those deep hollers around Smith Lake there is now way to know whats around the corner of some of those mountains...I dont see the tourney being negligent myself...IDK I wasnt there.... Discovery will show what they knew and when they knew it
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: wew3006]
#4311710
04/16/25 05:59 PM
04/16/25 05:59 PM
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ArmPit of the south
DeerNutz0U812_
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How do you predict what kind fog is gonna be and cancel the tourney when some of these guys are driving hundreds of miles in 3 days tourny....No way can you hold the tournament liable for not cancelling...Fog is tricky and I would imagine in some of those deep hollers around Smith Lake there is now way to know whats around the corner of some of those mountains...I dont see the tourney being negligent myself...IDK I wasnt there.... Discovery will show what they knew and when they knew it Yup...Thats when their gonna FAFO....
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: DeerNutz0U812_]
#4311711
04/16/25 06:03 PM
04/16/25 06:03 PM
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Posts: 1,785
Al
Broadhead26
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How do you predict what kind fog is gonna be and cancel the tourney when some of these guys are driving hundreds of miles in 3 days tourny....No way can you hold the tournament liable for not cancelling...Fog is tricky and I would imagine in some of those deep hollers around Smith Lake there is now way to know whats around the corner of some of those mountains...I dont see the tourney being negligent myself...IDK I wasnt there.... It’s 2025. It’s not hard to determine if there’s going to be fog. They don’t even need to cancel it, just give it the hour or so for the sun to burn it off or wind to blow it out. But it also doesnt matter if they drove 10 or 1000 miles for it. If it’s unsafe, then it’s unsafe.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: CrappieMan]
#4311714
04/16/25 06:10 PM
04/16/25 06:10 PM
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Posts: 10,361
blount county alabama
imadeerhntr
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blount county alabama
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Most bass tournament guys think they own the lake during a tournament. Not all but most. I've had some real good conversations with some and some real bad incidents with some. This is the problem. Now Joey Broom along with two others right now are dead because of it. I’m no going to disagree with some. It was the guides place to pull over and get out of the way. It was the bass tournament fisherman and the tournament for cutting them loose in the fog.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: DeerNutz0U812_]
#4311725
04/16/25 06:38 PM
04/16/25 06:38 PM
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Posts: 284
Warrior Alabama
smallgame
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How do you predict what kind fog is gonna be and cancel the tourney when some of these guys are driving hundreds of miles in 3 days tourny....No way can you hold the tournament liable for not cancelling...Fog is tricky and I would imagine in some of those deep hollers around Smith Lake there is now way to know whats around the corner of some of those mountains...I dont see the tourney being negligent myself...IDK I wasnt there.... No one said to cancel the event just delay it until the fog lifted
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: wew3006]
#4311730
04/16/25 06:47 PM
04/16/25 06:47 PM
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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There is no doubt that the tourney directors are going to be accused of being negligent. Was there fog at blastoff or not? Simple question and answer.
We did a guided Striper trip one year at night. Bill (I think) Vines was the guide. He only does night trips in August. One reason was the heat but more importantly, was safety as that is a time of way too much lake traffic. He was very cautious about it and I appreciated this. I was relieved that this didn't involve him. Super nice guy and if anyone wants to catch some Stripers on Smith, he's the guy. With Summer coming up, the night trip was really fun.
Sorry, for veering off topic as this is not the time for guide recommendations, but I was relieved it wasn't him. Condolences to those that did lose their lives or were on either boat.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Smith Lake Boat accident
[Re: jawbone]
#4311733
04/16/25 06:52 PM
04/16/25 06:52 PM
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Chelsea
lectrode
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There is no doubt that the tourney directors are going to be accused of being negligent. Was there fog at blastoff or not? Simple question and answer.
We did a guided Striper trip one year at night. Bill (I think) Vines was the guide. He only does night trips in August. One reason was the heat but more importantly, was safety as that is a time of way too much lake traffic. He was very cautious about it and I appreciated this. I was relieved that this didn't involve him. Super nice guy and if anyone wants to catch some Stripers on Smith, he's the guy. With Summer coming up, the night trip was really fun.
Sorry, for veering off topic as this is not the time for guide recommendations, but I was relieved it wasn't him. Condolences to those that did lose their lives or were on either boat. We went with Bill one time. Had a good time !
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