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Baiting Bill is back
#525687
02/06/13 03:21 PM
02/06/13 03:21 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 72,710 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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GUVNER
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Senate Bill 88 there is also sister bill in the legislature which is the same, House Bill 118
SYNOPSIS: Under existing law, a landowner may lawfully 9 provide supplemental feed for birds and animals on 10 his or her private land. Also, existing law 11 prohibits whitetail deer from being hunted over 12 bait. 13 This bill would allow whitetail deer to be 14 hunted on private land within a certain area in 15 relation to supplemental feeding. 16 17 A BILL 18 TO BE ENTITLED 19 AN ACT 20 21 Relating to hunting; to amend Section 9-11-244 of 22 the Code of Alabama 1975, to allow whitetail deer to be hunted 23 on private land under certain conditions within an area in 24 relation to supplemental feeding. 25 BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF ALABAMA: 26 Section 1. The Legislature, in enacting this act, 27 finds the following: Page 1 1 (1) The bird and animal population of this state 2 benefit greatly as a result of supplemental feeding 3 particularly during winter months. 4 (2) The current law has caused many landowners to 5 discontinue supplemental feeding during deer season to avoid 6 an inadvertent violation of the law and a resulting citation. 7 (3) The purpose of this act is to clarify the area 8 in which supplemental feeding may take place through the use 9 of a mechanical, gravity, or trough feeder in relation to any 10 hunter on the land. 11 Section 2. This act shall be known as the Hunter 12 Protection Act. 13 Section 3. Section 9-11-244 of the Code of Alabama 14 1975, is amended to read as follows: 15 "�9-11-244. 16 "(a) Except as otherwise provided for whitetail deer 17 in subsection (b), no No person at any time shall take, catch, 18 kill, or attempt to take, catch, or kill any bird or animal 19 protected by law or regulation of the State of Alabama by 20 means, aid, or use, directly or indirectly, of any bait such 21 as shelled, shucked, or unshucked corn or of wheat or other 22 grain, salt, or any other feed whatsoever that has been so 23 deposited, placed, distributed, or scattered as to constitute 24 for such birds or animals a lure, attraction, or enticement 25 to, on or over the area where such hunter or hunters are 26 attempting to kill or take them; provided, that such birds or 27 animals may be taken under properly shocked corn and standing Page 2 1 crops of corn, wheat, or other grain or feed and grains 2 scattered solely as a result of normal agricultural harvesting 3 and provided further, migratory birds may be hunted under the 4 most recent provisions established by the U.S. Fish and 5 Wildlife Service or regulations promulgated by the 6 Commissioner of the Department of Conservation and Natural 7 Resources within the limits of the federal regulations. 8 "(b)(1) On private lands, whitetail deer may be 9 hunted more than 100 yards from a supplemental feeder provided 10 the feeder is outside of the line of sight of the hunter. For 11 purposes of this subsection, "outside of the line of sight" 12 means "hidden from view by natural vegetation or naturally 13 occurring terrain features." 14 "(2) This subsection shall not apply on public 15 lands." 16 Section 4. This act shall become effective on the 17 first day of the third month following its passage and 18 approval by the Governor, or its otherwise becoming law. Page
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: Skinny]
#525688
02/06/13 03:24 PM
02/06/13 03:24 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 52,130 Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Mildly Quirky
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Round ‘bout there
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Same as Mississippi's, isn't it ... out of the line of sight?
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: Skinny]
#525744
02/06/13 04:47 PM
02/06/13 04:47 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 72,710 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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I dont know if its the same as Miss, but from the looks of how this one is set up it stands a better chance of passing than previous years.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people. "The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me "You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: Skinny]
#525802
02/06/13 05:50 PM
02/06/13 05:50 PM
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Matt Brock
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Matt Brock
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All this bill does is define "baited area", so it is no longer up to each officer's discretion. It Will make enforcement much easier.
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: Skinny]
#525805
02/06/13 05:52 PM
02/06/13 05:52 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494 Jefferson
Fun4all
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Sad that "hunting" is no longer what people want to do. Instant gratification society, can anybody guess what will be the next cure all?? I need to become rich off of the stupid and would like to figure the next cure all snake oil out, I am opinion for suggestions!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: bigt]
#525824
02/06/13 06:14 PM
02/06/13 06:14 PM
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Posts: 1,588 auburn - God's Country
AlphaMale
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The bird and animal population of this state 2 benefit greatly as a result of supplemental feeding 3 particularly during winter months.
its for the good of the animals and people that sell feeders
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: AlphaMale]
#525832
02/06/13 06:22 PM
02/06/13 06:22 PM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,494 Jefferson
Fun4all
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The bird and animal population of this state 2 benefit greatly as a result of supplemental feeding 3 particularly during winter months.
its for the good of the animals and people that sell feeders That is typically hilarious politician BS!! I guess all of the animals die off in every winter, oh no they don't!, Never mind, just stupid politicians doing stupid politician BS!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: Clem]
#525853
02/06/13 07:01 PM
02/06/13 07:01 PM
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Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 9,949 Fayette Co.
hollywud20
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Same as Mississippi's, isn't it ... out of the line of sight? So I can put a pile of corn out at 20 yards and put a piece of plywood in front so I can't see it and be ok?
Last edited by hollywud20; 02/06/13 07:02 PM.
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: hollywud20]
#525871
02/06/13 07:27 PM
02/06/13 07:27 PM
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Posts: 4,172 Trussville, Al
Jpipererp
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Same as Mississippi's, isn't it ... out of the line of sight? So I can put a pile of corn out at 20 yards and put a piece of plywood in front so I can't see it and be ok? thats what everyone was saying about the last year's proposition.
Bass Bandito
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: Skinny]
#525897
02/06/13 07:52 PM
02/06/13 07:52 PM
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Matt Brock
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100 yards AND out of line of sight. Must meet both requirements.
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
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#525914
02/06/13 08:13 PM
02/06/13 08:13 PM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
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Not to mention..... outside of the line of sight" means "hidden from view by natural vegetation or naturally occurring terrain features." I don't see a lot of naturally occurring plywood where I hunt.....
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
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#525938
02/06/13 08:36 PM
02/06/13 08:36 PM
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Posts: 6,539 Birmingham
truedouble
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100 yards AND out of line of sight. Must meet both requirements. I can think of multiple ways a hunter could legally set this up so that even though they comply with the law their hunt is positively impacted by the feeder. I thought the entire idea was to provide a clear and defined law that would allow land managers the ability to "feed" during the hunting season without having to worry about being ticketed based on a GW's discretion or opinions, which I think makes sense. However, this seems more like a way to legalize baiting, but throw in the 100 yds and out of line of sight just so law makers can argue that it's not intended to allow baiting... Maybe I'm wrong but if passed who wants to bet that all of a sudden there will be hundreds of clubs and landowners that all of a sudden feel the need to "feed" their deer during hunting season to save the deer, birds and other wildlife that would most definitely starve in the harsh winter environment that this state has. I agree the law as it stands is stupid, but this particular law is drafted as a soft intro. to baiting in Alabama. JMO
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: Hogwild]
#525939
02/06/13 08:38 PM
02/06/13 08:38 PM
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Posts: 6,621 Mobile,AL
jsh1904
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And you considered it vegetation????? Lmao
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Re: Baiting Bill is back
[Re: truedouble]
#525940
02/06/13 08:39 PM
02/06/13 08:39 PM
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Posts: 6,621 Mobile,AL
jsh1904
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100 yards AND out of line of sight. Must meet both requirements. I can think of multiple ways a hunter could legally set this up so that even though they comply with the law their hunt is positively impacted by the feeder. I thought the entire idea was to provide a clear and defined law that would allow land managers the ability to "feed" during the hunting season without having to worry about being ticketed based on a GW's discretion or opinions, which I think makes sense. However, this seems more like a way to legalize baiting, but throw in the 100 yds and out of line of sight just so law makers can argue that it's not intended to allow baiting... Maybe I'm wrong but if passed who wants to bet that all of a sudden there will be hundreds of clubs and landowners that all of a sudden feel the need to "feed" their deer during hunting season to save the deer, birds and other wildlife that would most definitely starve in the harsh winter environment that this state has. I agree the law as it stands is stupid, but this particular law is drafted as a soft intro. to baiting in Alabama. JMO If you ever thought the baiting bill was really about supplemental feeding you started off on the wrong foot.
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