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AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season #536158
02/17/13 12:19 PM
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http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/02/alabama_dog_hunters_associatio.html

Just one more reason to not like dog hunting.......

You know I grew up hunting with dogs but times have changed and so have alot of the people that still hunt with dogs around here....

Instead of trying to get it totally dropped did they ever think about suggesting that their season just go ten days longer in Jan?


Sorry I am through venting now....


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Re: AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season [Re: bigt] #539118
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Yes, many proposals have been made besides the one listed in the article.

Re: AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season [Re: bigt] #541383
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There have been many proposals floated by the dog hunters association to address the fact they'd lose an additional 10 days from their already shortened season if the current framework as proposed is approved.
Several of them, including letting dog hunters run their dogs during the 10-day, gun-season closure in December, were made at the Feb. 9 CAB meeting. Dog hunters who spoke almost to a person voiced support of February hunting but only if it did not mean they lost 10 more days in their season.
Because those proposals were met with blank stares from CAB members, ADHA members in SW Alabama decided to oppose the entire February season proposal on its merits.
Their position now is, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
If you really think about it, it's hard to argue that point with any scientific or even anecdotal certainty across the entire region.
What's so wrong with things now that we need a February season?

Point is: Despite how you feel about dog-deer hunting, it's still hunting. Those folks buy licenses that return the same amount in federal Wildlife Restoration funds as the license bought by someone who does not hunt with dogs.
We also can't forget that dogs are also used to hunt rabbit, squirrel, hog, coyote, fox and even quail.
I'm in favor of all forms of legal hunting, period.

Not arguing, just sayin'.

The ADHA is hosting an open meeting at 7 p.m. at Creola City Hall. Several state reps. and senators along with district CAB members are expected. New WFF Director Chuck Sykes may also attend.
While I expect there will be a bunch of pro-dog folks there, everyone is invited to attend.
Organizers plan on having folks sign up and speakers will be on a time limit.
Creola Mayor Don Nelson is expected to moderate.

Re: AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season [Re: bigt] #541410
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7 PM when? I was a long time dog hunter, but no more. I am in favor of dog hunting as long as the club has a large contiguous tract of land they can keep their dogs on, but when they impede others from enjoying their hunting by tresspass on others land then changes and restrictions need to be made.

Re: AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season [Re: JDute] #541529
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Originally Posted By: JDute
Bigt,
There have been many proposals floated by the dog hunters association to address the fact they'd lose an additional 10 days from their already shortened season if the current framework as proposed is approved.
Several of them, including letting dog hunters run their dogs during the 10-day, gun-season closure in December, were made at the Feb. 9 CAB meeting. Dog hunters who spoke almost to a person voiced support of February hunting but only if it did not mean they lost 10 more days in their season.
Because those proposals were met with blank stares from CAB members, ADHA members in SW Alabama decided to oppose the entire February season proposal on its merits.
Their position now is, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
If you really think about it, it's hard to argue that point with any scientific or even anecdotal certainty across the entire region.
What's so wrong with things now that we need a February season?

Point is: Despite how you feel about dog-deer hunting, it's still hunting. Those folks buy licenses that return the same amount in federal Wildlife Restoration funds as the license bought by someone who does not hunt with dogs.
We also can't forget that dogs are also used to hunt rabbit, squirrel, hog, coyote, fox and even quail.
I'm in favor of all forms of legal hunting, period.

Not arguing, just sayin'.

The ADHA is hosting an open meeting at 7 p.m. at Creola City Hall. Several state reps. and senators along with district CAB members are expected. New WFF Director Chuck Sykes may also attend.
While I expect there will be a bunch of pro-dog folks there, everyone is invited to attend.
Organizers plan on having folks sign up and speakers will be on a time limit.
Creola Mayor Don Nelson is expected to moderate.


Jeff,
when is the meeting? I would be interested in attending. I do not advocate the dog hunters loosing ten days and honestly thought the first time I heard that from a dog hunter that they were mistaken. I would have thought their season would have just been shifted like the rest of the season. I would even be willing to voice my support for that but would be against them running dogs during the ten days in December. I try not to let the one extremely bad experience I had with a dog club turn me against all dog hunting, but sometimes it is hard. I hope it does not come across that I am against all dog hunting because I am not. I just can't stand outlaws( dog hunters or still hunters).


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Re: AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season [Re: bigt] #541697
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The thing to do is don`t let the rabbit hunters hunt your land anymore if that is the way they want to be ..........most of the time it is no money out of there pockets when they hunt after deer season.To me thats the least thing they should be worrying about. Go out pay the high prices like most of the deer hunters do for the land that they lease ....Then it wouldn`t have no bearing at all on when deer seson comes in or ends.... They could hunt all they wanted then............


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Rabbit and squirrel season opens Oct 1 and goes thru Feb 29, if they want to hunt then they can lease land.

Re: AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season [Re: bigt] #541785
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And who says that they don't?

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hogwild, some do. but one argument againts the February extention is that it will cut days for small game hunters. This is true only for the ones that hunt others land after deer season.

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The basis of this is that the Proposal will take 10 days of legal season away from the dog deer hunters. Nothing more, nothing less.

It has nothing to do with expecting others to allow people to hunt their property.

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The meeting is tonight (Monday).

Re: AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season [Re: bigt] #541817
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hogwild, both are true. Deer dog hunters are not happy about loosing 10 days.
Small game hunters are not happy about loosing 10 days in Feb. to hunt other peoples property.

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I think you are misunderstanding their stance.

MOST Clubs do not allow their paying members to small game hunt with dogs during Deer Season.

The guys are paying their way and have full rights to the property. The fact is that they simply are not allowed to hunt with their dogs due to the deer hunting craze.

It is the same way on Public Land also. While absolutely legal......people complain to no end over people rabbit and squirrel hunting.

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BTW, MANY Clubs don't even allow small-game hunting WITHOUT dogs during deer season!

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They should find a club that does allow it. If that cannot be found in area, then start one.
I run deer dogs. MOST clubs do not allow that either. but I found one that does. Small game hunters can do the same thing. I think most deer dog clubs, will allow small game hunting during deer season, just not on days of organized deer hunts.

Anyone hunting public land has no right to complain about inadverdaent run-ins with other hunters. Also, there is a lot of Corps of engineers land that only allows small game hunting.

BTW, I am not a big fan of the extended season for different reasons, but the small game hunter argument just does not hold up. There are plenty of places and opertunitys if they are willing to do the research and to pay up if nesaccerry.

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That was fun,


and now; here is why this extended season will be the end of small game hunting and eventually all hunting in the state.
...........just kidding

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I agree with your logic on the Clubs.

But, the guys posting on here are simply complaining. Not one single person has tried to utilize the line of reasoning that is being portrayed.

I am very used to having to wait until after the Deer and Turkey Seasons to hunt with my hog dogs....even on the property that I own and lease. I also fully expect most Clubs in the Zone with the Split Season to close ALL access to their property during the lull. So, there is no need in saying that it is a compromise, either.

I am actually in favor of the Split Season.....always have been! smile

Re: AL.com article on Alabama dog hunters and extended season [Re: bigt] #541975
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I think there are a few selfish people or "game-hogs" on here! Some want to control the land during deer season. You have to show
respect to be given respect.Dog hunters have the same right as
tree climbers.

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Hopefully...this proposed season extension is the beginning of the end of dog hunting in Alabama...and that end can`t come soon enough. When I was a very young man, my dad took me dog hunting several times near Silas, AL. After the buckshot was loaded and the "standers",(men of impeccable marksmanship), were set...the moment we all were waiting for came.......turning a pack of filthy, stinking, nasty dogs loose to turn the woods upside down for the next few hours. I clearly remember asking my dad.."how are they gonna get those dogs back, dad?" His answer was as clear then as it is now..."they don`t son."
Jeff`s logic is that he supports all forms of legal hunting. This is why the state must make dog hunting illegal so then he wouldn`t have to support it anymore and the rest of us that pay through the nose for leases won`t have to waste precious ammo blasting strays that run onto adjacent property. Dogs have no sense of boundaries...but their outlaw, mouth breathing owners do and they show time and time again that they have no respect for boundaries. I could care less about extending deer season, but if it`s a means to an end to eradicate the antiquated practice of dog deer hunting...I`m all for it.

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Quote:
Jeff`s logic is that he supports all forms of legal hunting. This is why the state must make dog hunting illegal so then he wouldn`t have to support it anymore


That's an illogical statement.

Gambling in Alabama is illegal yet many people support it.

High-alcohol content beers - "craft beers" - were illegal for years but thousands of people supported it.

Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it automatically loses support.


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