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B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails #853527
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I found this on another site.

Three things you didn't know about trophy whitetails (see answers below)

1. There are currently 8,568 typical whitetails listed in Boone and Crockett records. What percentage are 8-pointers (eastern count)?

2. Which antler characteristic factors most heavily into the score of a typical whitetail?

3. Continent-wide, what are the odds of a deer hunter collecting and entering a Boone and Crockett-qualifying whitetail?



Quiz answers:

1. 2.6 percent. The World's Record typical 8-pointer, taken in Mexico in 1985, boasts a final score of 184-5/8.

2. Main beam lengths account for 30 percent of the score. The average Boone and Crockett-class buck has main beams measuring 25.63 inches. For field judging purposes, it's about 8 inches from a buck's eye to the end of its nose, so look for main beams at least three times that length. The next-most important factor is mass. Circumference measurements taken between the burr and first point, and between other points along the main beam, together provide nearly 18 percent of the score. What's a good way to field-judge mass? The circumference of a whitetail's eye is about four inches, and antler circumference measurements on a standard Boone and Crockett qualifying rack average 4.45 inches. So, hunters should look for main beams thicker than the eyes, with that mass carried through the length of the beams. Other important characteristics for score, accounting for 12 percent each, are spread credit, length of second point and length of third point. The average Boone and Crockett trophy has a spread credit of 19.75 inches, second-points measuring 10.10 inches and third points measuring 10.12 inches.

3. Approximately 1 in 20,000. There are roughly 10 million deer hunters who now enter about 500 whitetails a year in Boone and Crockett records. By comparison, in Wisconsin, which now produces the most trophy whitetails with about 130 a year, and has some 600,000 deer hunters, the odds are approximately 1 in 4,500.


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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #853604
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Interesting, I'll prolly never make that list



Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #853679
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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #853709
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people throw around the 150/160 class comment on 8points much to liberally. if you get an 8point getting over 130 in alabama its pretty special. an 8 is really the only real typical buck, every thing after 8 points is abnormal.

Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: scrape] #853772
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Originally Posted By: scrape
people throw around the 150/160 class comment on 8points much to liberally. if you get an 8point getting over 130 in alabama its pretty special. an 8 is really the only real typical buck, every thing after 8 points is abnormal.


horsechitt, tens are just as typical as eights.....some places have more tens than others, just depends on genetics and feed.


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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #853881
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A 180 eight point is a giant! I'd rather pop him than a 200 inch 12

Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: TIME_KILLER08] #853894
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Originally Posted By: TIME_KILLER08
A 180 eight point is a giant! I'd rather pop him than a 200 inch 12



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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #853903
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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: scrape] #853942
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Originally Posted By: scrape
people throw around the 150/160 class comment on 8points much to liberally. if you get an 8point getting over 130 in alabama its pretty special. an 8 is really the only real typical buck, every thing after 8 points is abnormal.


Huh.



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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #854233
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most important aspect of B&C scoring is TINE LENGTH....wide just looks good, tall scores good.


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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: BhamFred] #854320
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
most important aspect of B&C scoring is TINE LENGTH....wide just looks good, tall scores good.


Yep, width ain't nothin' but air, air is everywhere. Long tines run the score up. Big mass adds up too and can really fool ya as to how much it adds.



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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #854348
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18" spread to a 22" spread adds 4"...

mass is way second to tine length..add an inch to each mass measurement and ya still get only 8"..but it looks googlymooglygood!!!!!

memyselandI like em wiiiddde, taaaaalll, and heavy :D, oh and lots of points slap


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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: BhamFred] #854376
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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: BhamFred] #854392
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Originally Posted By: BhamFred
18" spread to a 22" spread adds 4"...

mass is way second to tine length..add an inch to each mass measurement and ya still get only 8"..but it looks googlymooglygood!!!!!

memyselandI like em wiiiddde, taaaaalll, and heavy :D, oh and lots of points slap


Agree...it's a good article, but when most hunters think of tine length they think of the sum of measurements. Long main beams are cool, but good brows, G1,G2, and G3's crammed onto a short main beam are better. At least in terms of score.

Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: BhamFred] #854787
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horsechitt, tens are just as typical as eights.....some places have more tens than others, just depends on genetics and feed.



you do have to admit though that nature made most bucks in America 8 pointers. you are right though that at certain high fence breeding/hunting grounds 20 pointers may be the typical.

Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #854809
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ain't got nothing to do with high fences....

I'd guess that the "majority" of Al bucks want to be a 120-130" eight point at five years old. But there are lots of ten points around....


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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #855257
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I think the B&C system under values mass. If you look at the volume/mass of total bone grown, mass measurements ought to factor in more ... IMO.

Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: MTeague] #855273
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Re: B&C's Three Things You Did Not Know About Trophy Whitetails [Re: M48scout] #855311
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Originally Posted By: M48scout
I think the B&C system under values mass. If you look at the volume/mass of total bone grown, mass measurements ought to factor in more ... IMO.


Don't know bout that, however, I am a fan of mass and I don't like the looks of a thin, spindly looking rack.

I think they should drop the spread measurement, it's nothing but measuring air.



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