only calibre I've ever shot deer with that made up for human error was a 25/06. Loaded with 100gr Hornady bombs at 3400fps it would stop a guy shot deer in his tracks, easy finish off shot. Done it twice in over 100 kills with that rifle. You did NOT want to be the one to guy that deer either.......

Most magnums won't do this because you are shooting a heavy, slow expanding bullet that actually does less damage that a 270/130 combo. Match yer bullet type and weight to the game and distance for best results.

or just shoot a Nosler Partition.....

I've killed deer with a 243 up to a 300 ultra mag. they all kill deer just fine. the 243 is my go to rifle.

I shot a 7mm stw with partitions for one season and under 150yds you couldn't tell the difference between the entrance and exit hole, way to much gun for a typical oat patch

Right company; wrong bullet if you want him DRT.

You CANNOT kill a deer with anything less than a 300 win mag. Y'all just ask my buddy and he will tell y'all all about it. All you have to do is hit the deer and it will be dead rite where it was standing. BUT last season he shot at 3 deer. Killed a doe at 60 yds in a green field, shot at a 6pt, hit it and lost it. I told him he had to have missed it. He argued he hit it. Than I reminded him of his statement he made. Yes he shut up. Third deer he just missed because he said he flinched. He cannot shoot the gun to sight it in, more than 3-4 shots his shoulder is killin him. He sure catches alot of heck from us about that gun. I have a 7mag BLR that is just deadly on deer, but I don't like the way it destroys so much meat. I have a bad habit of takin shoulders out and it make a big ole mess.

you mean an Accubond??????

350 inches away

I'd say that counted......

Trying a 7 mag this year. I was surprised by the lack of recoil. Maybe it's just my rifle.

What rifle did you get?

7mm isn't bad on recoil if you stick to 140 grains or less.

I get the arguments about how magnums increase the human factor....bad shot placement is bad shot placement. Period. Don't matter if is is with a .22LR or a .300 Mag. I also understand that the foot pounds you get with the magnums helps with bad shot placement. But, the bottom line is if you make a bad shot DO NO FREAKING PUSH THE DEER!!!!!!! Give them time, and go get your dead deer.

If skinnies can kill elephants and Cape buffalo with a bow or spear .....I think a .270 should be able to handle a deer without an issue

Just my thoughts

Test Barrel (24") Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
2940/2687 2747/2345 2562/2040 2384/1767 2214/1523 2050/1307


Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
- 1.50 1.60 0.00 -6.90 -19.80 -39.90

this is for the 270 Win 140 gr InterLock� BTSP

very capable out to 300. especially when you shoot as good as me and shooters

But the point is some of the bad shots are caused by the shooter flinching, and anticipating recoil of the magnum.

i have even saw some close their eyes before pulling the trigger .

You guys are taking me the wrong way. I think that the vast majority of "human factor" bad shot placement is due to folks not having enough trigger time (me included). When you couple that with the recoil of a magnum rifle, you are setting the stage for the shooter to just in general pull the shot, mess the shot up, etc.

I know I should shoot more than I do. I wish I had the time. That said, I don't want to compound my already lack of shooting frequency by having a gun that knocks the piss out of me, therefore making me do something stupid...like close my eyes, etc. Which is why I use just a plain old 270 Win. I've killed deer out west and in Canada with it. No matter the size of the deer (or animal, for that matter), the result is still the same: you perforate their lungs, they ain't going far....and are gonna bleed plenty

I believe if you can handle the recoil and precisely aim a 3.5" 12 gauge turkey load you can do the same with a rifle. My 300 rum has a little thump to it but my turkey thumper rattles my teeth pretty good!

An older 700 bdl

The recoil pad on my 700 xcr 338rum tames the felt recoil to about a 12 ga.

Too many people rely on a good recoil pad. Not enough people learn the fundamentals of how to actually firmly hold a gun to your shoulder so that you don't have to worry as much about recoil. First gun was an old remmy semi in 30-06. That thing would beat the tar out of you if it wasn't held right. But by the time I was 13, I could take a nanner and her yerlin in two consecutive shots and it had no recoil pad. Learn how to tame your cannon before you bring ethical harvest into play.