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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: WmHunter]
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10/08/14 10:03 AM
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Like I said, you just don't get it. Because you are a morally bankrupt liberal. Folks like you ARE the problem in America.
And yes, gays openly parading in the streets and having it televised on TV programs is worse than a person flashing. It is evil and perverted - something your pathetic 12 year old mentality just doesn't get. I feel sorry for your children. You, sir, need to do more reading... Loving LIBERTY, true LIBERTY is not Liberalism. Suppression of Liberty is what Liberals and Conservatives alike do when they're not "comfortable" with something someone else is doing. What was our Country founded upon? The ideal of TRUE LIBERTY. Jefferson, April 1770 Under the law of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal liberty, and is given him by the author of nature, because necessary for his own sustenance. Jefferson, December 1791 I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. Jefferson, April 1795 being myself a warm zealot for the attainment & enjoiment by all mankind of as much liberty as each may exercise without injury to the equal liberty of his fellow citizens Jefferson, 1777 That our civil rights have no dependance on our religious opinions, any more than on our opinions in physicks or geometry. Jefferson, August 1800 the clergy, by getting themselves established by law, & ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil & religious rights of man. Jefferson, April 1803 I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance Jefferson, May 1813 on the subject of religion, a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his maker, in which no other, & far less the public, had a right to intermeddle.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: WmHunter]
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10/08/14 10:06 AM
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You know nothing about the history of your own country. And obviously don't even care. Fyi, the Founding Fathers did not establish an anarchy of hedonism where anything goes. No one has said there shouldn't be any laws and that anything should be Ok. Where do you get this s##t? You are arguing against a stance no one has taken. You are trying to equate allowing two people to marry with allowing them to have anal intercourse on a public bus. Not the same thing. And the personal insults? Really? And I'm the 12 year old? LOL! Like I said, you just don't get it. Because you are a morally bankrupt liberal. Folks like you ARE the problem in America. And yes, gays openly parading in the streets and having it televised on TV programs is worse than a person flashing. It is evil and perverted - something your pathetic 12 year old mentality just doesn't get. I feel sorry for your children. Whatever another internet badass running his mouth from the safety of a key board. Not impressed. Move to Iran. Your motherland is calling.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: bamachem]
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10/08/14 10:14 AM
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Like I said, you just don't get it. Because you are a morally bankrupt liberal. Folks like you ARE the problem in America.
And yes, gays openly parading in the streets and having it televised on TV programs is worse than a person flashing. It is evil and perverted - something your pathetic 12 year old mentality just doesn't get. I feel sorry for your children. Loving LIBERTY, true LIBERTY is not Liberalism. Suppression of Liberty is what Liberals do when they're not "comfortable" with something someone else is doing. What was our Country founded upon? The ideal of TRUE LIBERTY. Jefferson, April 1770 Under the law of nature, all men are born free, every one comes into the world with a right to his own person, which includes the liberty of moving and using it at his own will. This is what is called personal liberty, and is given him by the author of nature, because necessary for his own sustenance. Jefferson, December 1791 I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. Jefferson, April 1795 being myself a warm zealot for the attainment & enjoiment by all mankind of as much liberty as each may exercise without injury to the equal liberty of his fellow citizens Jefferson, 1777 That our civil rights have no dependance on our religious opinions, any more than on our opinions in physicks or geometry. Jefferson, August 1800 the clergy, by getting themselves established by law, & ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil & religious rights of man. Jefferson, April 1803 [qutoe]I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance Jefferson, May 1813 on the subject of religion, a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his maker, in which no other, & far less the public, had a right to intermeddle. Good post. The irony coming from WmHunter is that literally everything he is accusing me of is actually true of him. He obviously knows nothing about this country, it's founders, the type laws that have been on the books or our system of government. And his rants are directed to-wards a concept, totally anarchy and hedonism, that no one in this thread has advocated and yet he calls me ignorant despite his obvious lack of reading comprehension.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: Todd1700]
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10/08/14 10:15 AM
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Finally, who has advocated "an anarchy of hedonism where anything goes."? Don't wait for an answer on that one. He can't give it to you.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: doekiller]
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10/08/14 10:19 AM
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Here is what I think is funny about some of the posters in this thread. They think the government should be involved in telling gays how to live their lives, but want the government not to be involved in telling them how to run their own lives.  Exactly. Just as I said in my first post. Many peoples concept of freedom is you can be free to do something as long as I like it. If I don't like it then it should be banned. It's the same with free speech. Some people only want to protect speech they agree with. Well speech that everyone agrees with doesn't need protecting. Laws that only protected that kind of speech would be pretty worthless.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: hunting13]
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10/08/14 11:18 AM
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What is a "eunuch"? Apparently, God makes them, too, and they are eunuchs from birth.
Matthew 19:9-12 English Standard Version (ESV)
9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”[a]
10 The disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 But he said to them, “Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given. 12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”
What does the Bible say about eunuchs?
Isaiah 56:3–5
3 Let not ythe foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say,
“The Lord will surely separate me from his people”;
and let not the eunuch say,
“Behold, I am za dry tree.”
4 For thus says the Lord:
“To the eunuchs xwho keep my Sabbaths,
who choose the things that please me
and hold fast my covenant,
5 I will give in my house and within my walls
a bmonument and a name
better than sons and daughters;
cI will give them an everlasting name
that shall not be cut off.
So, proof that God makes people who are sexual different than the norm. It is reasonable to say that he also makes varying degrees of eunuchs, and therefore makes people who are born to have alternate biological desires and preferences. God does not shun these people as long as they honor Him.
That's good enough for me.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: hunting13]
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10/08/14 11:28 AM
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Holy Chit is this still being argued?
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: GomerPyle]
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10/08/14 11:36 AM
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Holy Chit is this still being argued?
Yeap! They been talking about fudge-packing and pillow biters for days now! 
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: hunting13]
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10/08/14 11:38 AM
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What was our Country founded upon? The ideal of TRUE LIBERTY.
100% correct. But what makes up TRUE LIBERTY? That is the next logical question. Our famous founders and other noted statesmen of history so often quoted generally agreed on one global concept regarding the preservation of Liberty. It is Virtue. "No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and . . . . their minds are to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and to be deterred from those of vice . . . . These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure and order of government." Thomas Jefferson "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin "Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people. The general government . . . can never be in danger of degenerating into a monarchy, an oligarchy, an aristocracy, or any despotic or oppresive form so long as there is any virtue in the body of the people." George Washington "To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea." James Madison "Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles." Patrick Henry "[I]t is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue." John Adams "[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man." Samuel Adams "Without virtue there can be no liberty." Benjamin Rush "What is liberty without wisdom and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint." Edmund Burke The point of the great American Experiment isn't Liberty, but VIRTUOUS Liberty! I'm a fan of that. Promoting or accepting gay marriage is not a virtuous pursuit. Banning gay marriage...Sure, it restricts liberty, but it does not restrict Virtuous Liberty. Virtuous Liberty encompasses the things that are good, right, just, moral and pure by definition. Is gay marriage good, right, just, moral and pure? (the real question of the day). Our answer is linked to and dependent on our worldview, which vary and can be debated.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: shooters]
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10/08/14 11:41 AM
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Holy Chit is this still being argued?
Yeap! They been talking about fudge-packing and pillow biters for days now! Hey now my wife is a pillow bitter but that is because I am good in bed. 
Hunting Is my Obsession, My Passion, My Everything, Oh so is my wife.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: bamachem]
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10/08/14 11:42 AM
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What is a "eunuch"? Apparently, God makes them, too, and they are eunuchs from birth.
Matthew 19:9-12 English Standard Version (ESV)
9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”[a]
10 The disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 But he said to them, “Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given. 12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”
What does the Bible say about eunuchs?
Isaiah 56:3–5
3 Let not ythe foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say,
“The Lord will surely separate me from his people”;
and let not the eunuch say,
“Behold, I am za dry tree.”
4 For thus says the Lord:
“To the eunuchs xwho keep my Sabbaths,
who choose the things that please me
and hold fast my covenant,
5 I will give in my house and within my walls
a bmonument and a name
better than sons and daughters;
cI will give them an everlasting name
that shall not be cut off. A eunuch is a castrated male (by man or self) or a male born without testicles (by birth). How is this applicable to the topic?
"The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever." Isaiah 40:8
"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.� Samuel Adams
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: straycat]
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10/08/14 11:44 AM
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A eunuch is a castrated male (by man or self) or a male born without testicles (by birth).
So its a married man basically.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: WmHunter]
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10/08/14 11:51 AM
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America is becoming a habitation for devils. And they are winning without any open civil conflict at all. Every judge who rules in favor of "gay" marriage or adoption should be strung up on the nearest light pole. Same for any judge who rules in favor of infanticide/abortion. And any judge that rules that international law or Sharia law has any applicability in U.S. courts. Same for anyone involved in this satanic unconstitutional bull: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/0...ntcmp=obnetwork Okay, so killing someone since they go against your religion? so when are you going to join ISIS? You know that King Leonidas and his Spartans promoted sex amongst soldiers? that was to believe to bring brotherhood and comradery... I bet you, nor anyone would have the balls to call them a faggot to their face.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: huntsicka]
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10/08/14 12:04 PM
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I really dont care what they do,as long as they dont get around me or my kids..
and yes its true i never got trurned on by no man they dont make a pill big enough I'm in the same boat, however I don't want to see a heterosexual couple going at it in front of me either.
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Re: Gays getting married
[Re: straycat]
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10/08/14 12:36 PM
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bamachem
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A eunuch is a castrated male (by man or self) or a male born without testicles (by birth).
How is this applicable to the topic?
It's simple, plain, indisputable acknowledgement by Christ that we are all made by the hand of God, even people born as hermaphrodites, eunuchs, etc. Biological diversity is not black/white, and varies greatly. Biological abnormality doesn't always manifest itself with an associated physical deformity. Therefore, gay/lesbian people are made, just like eunuchs. They are "born that way". God also does not shun them as long as they honor Him and honor their personal Covenant with Him.
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