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Hog Hunting Fundamentals #1110970
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New here, and hoping to harvest a pig or two this year. I've never hunted hogs, and truth be told, I have not hunted in about 15 years, but I'm looking forward to getting back into the swing.

I was hoping you guys could give me some advice to help me avoid common mistakes, and ideas on general areas to hunt near Birmingham.

I know a lot of people say .223 isn't a good caliber for hogs, but that's my only option right now. It will be a Ruger mini-14 with iron sights, so i'm counting on hunting up close and personal.

I'd like to find a hunting partner, so if anyone is in b'ham and looking to do the same, post up.

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I am game, but also a rookie. Been about 20 years since I got back into it last year. Have a 308 though so should be ideal for hogs. I lI've in the MCCalla area.

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Get a boat and head to the army corp of engineers land in Boligee, Alabama. Make sure you read the regulations and follow the map of hunting areas. You should be able to get a minimum of 2-3 per trip. The corp land in Gainsville, Al is also loaded with hogs. Get down wind of a section and slip up a hog trail. The trails will be much wider than a deer trail. Keep your ears, eyes and especially nose open and shoot them in the head.

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Originally Posted By: Strutter
Get a boat and head to the army corp of engineers land in Boligee, Alabama. Make sure you read the regulations and follow the map of hunting areas. You should be able to get a minimum of 2-3 per trip. The corp land in Gainsville, Al is also loaded with hogs. Get down wind of a section and slip up a hog trail. The trails will be much wider than a deer trail. Keep your ears, eyes and especially nose open and shoot them in the head.


But you'll have to leave those centerfire rifles at home. It's shotgun with slugs or muzzleloader only once gun season opens. The rest of the time it's a .22 lr or a shotgun with number 4 shot. The shotgun with 4 shot seems super sketchy


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Originally Posted By: Strutter
Get a boat and head to the army corp of engineers land in Boligee, Alabama. Make sure you read the regulations and follow the map of hunting areas. You should be able to get a minimum of 2-3 per trip. The corp land in Gainsville, Al is also loaded with hogs. Get down wind of a section and slip up a hog trail. The trails will be much wider than a deer trail. Keep your ears, eyes and especially nose open and shoot them in the head.


But you'll have to leave those centerfire rifles at home. It's shotgun with slugs or muzzleloader only once gun season opens. The rest of the time it's a .22 lr or a shotgun with number 4 shot. The shotgun with 4 shot seems super sketchy
No 22 magnum or 17 HMR??

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My father-in-law has a hunting lease in Geiger Al. I may see if their club will allow me to hunt hogs a few times a year. However, i'd rather do it somewhere close by.

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Originally Posted By: Strutter
Get a boat and head to the army corp of engineers land in Boligee, Alabama. Make sure you read the regulations and follow the map of hunting areas. You should be able to get a minimum of 2-3 per trip. The corp land in Gainsville, Al is also loaded with hogs. Get down wind of a section and slip up a hog trail. The trails will be much wider than a deer trail. Keep your ears, eyes and especially nose open and shoot them in the head.


But you'll have to leave those centerfire rifles at home. It's shotgun with slugs or muzzleloader only once gun season opens. The rest of the time it's a .22 lr or a shotgun with number 4 shot. The shotgun with 4 shot seems super sketchy
No 22 magnum or 17 HMR??


No .22 mag .17 is in kind of a grey area


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Wind, food, bedding area, listen a lot, and make good shots. Pigs are tough and will take you through hell if you have to blood trail one far.


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Re: Hog Hunting Fundamentals [Re: TVH] #1111370
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You can use a 17 hmr on corp land. That is what I use with a 20 gr FMJ bullet. I don't think they make a FMJ round any longer or I have not been able to find them.

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Originally Posted By: Strutter
You can use a 17 hmr on corp land. That is what I use with a 20 gr FMJ bullet. I don't think they make a FMJ round any longer or I have not been able to find them.


Not sure if it's legal to hunt with a fmj on corps land. I know you can't on wma land


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Nothing in regs about FMJ for shooting squirrels.
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Re: Hog Hunting Fundamentals [Re: TVH] #1111475
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I built an extremely accurate Ruger 10/22 a while back, and would be confident with shot placement with that rifle. However, it's pretty heavy with the bull barrel. I'm the kind of hunter that enjoys the hunt, so holding off for a perfect shot is not a problem for me, it's preferred--no issue passing if the shot isn't good.

I have seen hogs dispatched pretty readily with a .22lr head shot. So this is a consideration for me--it's just not my ideal hunt. I would be going with head and neck shots with the .223 as well.

So you're pretty much limited to .22 or a 12ga slug during deer season in those areas if you want to hunt with a modern gun.

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Originally Posted By: Joe4majors
I am game, but also a rookie. Been about 20 years since I got back into it last year. Have a 308 though so should be ideal for hogs. I lI've in the MCCalla area.


Sounds good, if/when i get the time, i'll keep you in mind. I'd like a 308 myself. Been looking at the Howa m1500 in 308, seems like a great rifle for the price. However, after further inspection of the rules in a lot of areas around there. It seems a nice 12ga with rifled slugs might be a better choice.

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Originally Posted By: Strutter
Get a boat and head to the army corp of engineers land in Boligee, Alabama.


Is it worth trying to hit some of the pockets of COE land if you don't have a boat? Obviously not asking for specific locations. I imagine road access is minimal and crossing private properly is not going to happen.

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Personally I have never hunted via walking in, but I have some friends who walk in to the airstrip area and hunt them with bows. They kill a few but it is a little harder with a bow. In my experience any place on the corp land that has berms tends to hold hogs. Any land that has river frontage should have hogs, but it just depends if it is a place that they stay there or a place where they just move through. I can confirm that most of the places in the below map have hogs. The land that is kind of in the bends of the river tend to hold hogs. Due to the number of hogs in these areas, you will find out real quick if they are there based on the sign.

http://www.sam.usace.army.mil/Portals/46...kens_Greene.pdf

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Originally Posted By: Strutter
Personally I have never hunted via walking in, but I have some friends who walk in to the airstrip area and hunt them with bows. They kill a few but it is a little harder with a bow. In my experience any place on the corp land that has berms tends to hold hogs. Any land that has river frontage should have hogs, but it just depends if it is a place that they stay there or a place where they just move through. I can confirm that most of the places in the below map have hogs. The land that is kind of in the bends of the river tend to hold hogs. Due to the number of hogs in these areas, you will find out real quick if they are there based on the sign.

http://www.sam.usace.army.mil/Portals/46...kens_Greene.pdf



I see, well i'll be heading out that way for thanksgiving at the hunting camp, i'll have to look for places to put my kayak in--don't have a boat. I might even stay at the camp and try for hogs over the weekend. Dunno, what the ol' timers will think about my mini-14 though lol..

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Originally Posted By: TVH
My father-in-law has a hunting lease in Geiger Al. I may see if their club will allow me to hunt hogs a few times a year. However, i'd rather do it somewhere close by.

i love hog hunting in geiger, more pigs there than i have ever seen. maybe someone will take me back over there one day. smile (not you, that comment is directed at someone else) you will probably be better off stalking than sitting in a stand. if the wind is in your favor, you can walk up pretty close to them. i stalked up on one a couple of weeks ago and killed it with a pocket pistol, while wearing a white t shirt, shorts, and crocs. if they are downwind of you, you will never see them.


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I will take that as a hint! grin

It all depends on those smallmouth fishing trips! grin


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looks like i've got the go ahead to hunt a private lease in geiger, al. It's about 2 hours from my house in b'ham, but I hope I can get out there sometime soon. They say that have them pretty thick.

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Originally Posted By: TVH
looks like i've got the go ahead to hunt a private lease in geiger, al. It's about 2 hours from my house in b'ham, but I hope I can get out there sometime soon. They say that have them pretty thick.


Good luck!

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