Agree 100%.

And yes, I've said 10 times that we have a solid turkey population where i hunt, and it is due to the fact that for the last 10 years there has been very little cutting or spraying on this property. Unlike areas surrounding us. But ill also say this, i drive 2 hours to hunt here because there are very few turkeys around my home, where there used to be an extremely high population. Nothing has changed in that area other than timber management practices. So you tell me what happened to all the birds if it wasnt timber practices and/or over harvesting? Im sure preadtors hurt, but the area i hunt now has a much higher predator population...

I never said a turkey couldn't live in pines. A turkey can live in some tough environments. But its impossible for them to sustain such a high population in pines that lack the food that they once had. If you are trying to tell me that current timber practices aren't targeting the killing of under brush and small vegetation, then YES im calling you a liar.

Our property, like alot of others in the counties i mentioned, was bought by an investment group last year. They came in and cut half of the timber, sprayed the new growth, and dropped pelletized herbicides via helicopter in the 5-15 year old pine stands. I know because I was here watching them do it. Now ALL undergrowth is dead. And in all honesty i know it hurts the deer worse than the turkeys, but it definitely hurts ALL wildlife. So no, you will not change my mind.