Originally Posted By: FH308
The idea that We can "self regulate" our deer herd to its best potential is obviously not working. While the rest of the country's deer herds improve ours is in decline. I myself am sick of seeing less deer/bucks while the neighbors self declare a high doe population as an excuse to shoot their guns.

It's obvious this is an issue. We have a couple forum biologists telling us how great the "science" is and the majority of the states stakeholders observing a decline in deer numbers and quality.

I can pick my nose and call it scientific research. We want to SEE results!


Perfect example of taking things we say entirely out of context. I've managed properties for several years now and know how to manage deer. The problem is when you the entire public flexibility they abuse it. Half the people who are against government collecting data and requiring all deer be reported are the same people screaming we done killed to many! Which is it? You want the state to regulate and manage the resource or step out of private land business and let people do what they want? That obviously don't work.

Like I said time and time again, deer management is site specific, and you can not base your deer management opinions based only on where you hunt. It could be right the opposite 10 miles away. If you're not talking to your neighbors and trying to form cooperatives around your hunting area than there may be an over harvest of deer in that area. Keep in mind that is not the case everywhere. Some places in this state are extremely overpopulated still. I hunt managed and unmanaged properties and I don't struggle to see deer anywhere I hunt. I actually struggle to kill enough because the habitat indicates there's too many. And the whole time I may be seeing a half dozen or more deer per hunt the adjoining landowner may be crying about seeing no deer. Its not that the deer aren't there. Their hunting strategies are little to be desired. Some people just can't hunt or rely on deer to walk out into pressured areas. It don't work that way guys. I've conducted site visits to properties that claim to have no deer. As soon as I get out of the truck the dirt roads are littered with tracks, there's an obvious browse line, and all they hunt is plots day in and day out.

Last edited by Matt Brock; 12/02/14 04:48 AM.