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Deer density??
#1172240
12/03/14 03:09 AM
12/03/14 03:09 AM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780 central ala,
centralala
OP
14 point
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OP
14 point
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780
central ala,
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Serious question...NOT TRING TO START A PEEING CONTEST!!! Hunters in SOME areas are saying deer #'s are down. From what I see, I agree. You have to take in account ALL deer mortalities: Coyotes, hunters, hit by a car, etc. The only one I see that can be truly controlled are hunters...for the most part. Now we have a split season in south Al. because hunters want to hunt the "rut". I understand that from a hunter standpoint. But that should decrease deer numbers in the same areas where hunters are seeing less. But if the numbers are truly lower, shouldn't the whole state be looking at reducing deer deaths by what can be controlled? Hunters have to look at the deer herd from a management standpoint to help numbers which includes trigger control on deer, NO trigger control on coyotes, habitat enhancement, etc. I don't see adjusting seasons allowing a chance to take more deer as a good management tool IF THE NUMBERS ARE TRULY LOW. THIS IS NOT A STRIKE AT DEER HUNTERS, ESPECIALLY IN S. ALABAMA, JUST WHATS BEST FOR THE HERD. FOR THE FUTURE EVERYONE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT.
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: centralala]
#1172307
12/03/14 04:09 AM
12/03/14 04:09 AM
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,904 Florida
jacannon
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,904
Florida
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We went from 2 does a day to 1. In theory this should help.
Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: centralala]
#1172379
12/03/14 04:53 AM
12/03/14 04:53 AM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 37,810 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 37,810
Boxes Cove
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I just wish "the state" would leave NA alone.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: centralala]
#1172406
12/03/14 05:10 AM
12/03/14 05:10 AM
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,517 Land of the free because of th...
mike35549
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,517
Land of the free because of th...
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Also in areas where the population is to high to control killing one a day you could get on the DMAP program and they could allow you to kill more than that. Not sure how it works but I would think they could give you tags or something g and you could kill as many as needed.
If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: mike35549]
#1172514
12/03/14 06:39 AM
12/03/14 06:39 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 22,103 USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 22,103
USA
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Also in areas where the population is to high to control killing one a day you could get on the DMAP program and they could allow you to kill more than that. Not sure how it works but I would think they could give you tags or something g and you could kill as many as needed. Yes you're right. 500ac minimum I believe.
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: Remington270]
#1172639
12/03/14 08:18 AM
12/03/14 08:18 AM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 18,286 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 18,286
Elmore County
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Also in areas where the population is to high to control killing one a day you could get on the DMAP program and they could allow you to kill more than that. Not sure how it works but I would think they could give you tags or something g and you could kill as many as needed. Yes you're right. 500ac minimum I believe. so if i aint got 500ac i can't kill more than one a day . that means i might have to get a crop damage permitt and let them root when i kill them at night in the summer . it just get better and better , y'all keep whining .
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: Frankie]
#1172670
12/03/14 08:47 AM
12/03/14 08:47 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 22,103 USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 22,103
USA
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Also in areas where the population is to high to control killing one a day you could get on the DMAP program and they could allow you to kill more than that. Not sure how it works but I would think they could give you tags or something g and you could kill as many as needed. Yes you're right. 500ac minimum I believe. so if i aint got 500ac i can't kill more than one a day . that means i might have to get a crop damage permitt and let them root when i kill them at night in the summer . it just get better and better , y'all keep whining . Believe me, I'm not whining. I was fine with the 2 doe/day limit. We don't kill any does anymore, so it makes no difference to me.
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: Frankie]
#1172701
12/03/14 09:11 AM
12/03/14 09:11 AM
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Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,999 Holly Pond, AL
NightHunter
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,999
Holly Pond, AL
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Also in areas where the population is to high to control killing one a day you could get on the DMAP program and they could allow you to kill more than that. Not sure how it works but I would think they could give you tags or something g and you could kill as many as needed. Yes you're right. 500ac minimum I believe. so if i aint got 500ac i can't kill more than one a day . that means i might have to get a crop damage permitt and let them root when i kill them at night in the summer . it just get better and better , y'all keep whining . So quit belly aching and get with neighbors and form a co-op and work toward a common goal. I'm going to guess that won't work for you or your neighbors one, but that's typical of most AL hunters. We try and give you ways to work within the system but that isn't good enough 
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: NightHunter]
#1173091
12/03/14 02:00 PM
12/03/14 02:00 PM
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Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 18,286 Elmore County
Frankie
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 18,286
Elmore County
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Also in areas where the population is to high to control killing one a day you could get on the DMAP program and they could allow you to kill more than that. Not sure how it works but I would think they could give you tags or something g and you could kill as many as needed. Yes you're right. 500ac minimum I believe. so if i aint got 500ac i can't kill more than one a day . that means i might have to get a crop damage permitt and let them root when i kill them at night in the summer . it just get better and better , y'all keep whining . So quit belly aching and get with neighbors and form a co-op and work toward a common goal. I'm going to guess that won't work for you or your neighbors one, but that's typical of most AL hunters. We try and give you ways to work within the system but that isn't good enough i did not have a problem but one was created for me . been good enough if they just left me alone . "I" was doing fine . they have a problem why are they not having to "work within the system" . i had not a problem why put the burden on me .
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: ikillbux]
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12/03/14 02:47 PM
12/03/14 02:47 PM
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Matt Brock
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Matt Brock
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That's not even remotely funny, ethical, or legal. Things can turn VERY bad VERY quick with that stuff. I spent the night in the ER because of it. And no it was not mine.
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: centralala]
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12/03/14 02:49 PM
12/03/14 02:49 PM
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Matt Brock
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Matt Brock
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But to answer the question, I've never seen more deer at any time in my life. I'm seeing plenty of deer on every place that I've hunted.
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: centralala]
#1173164
12/03/14 02:50 PM
12/03/14 02:50 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 37,090 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 37,090
alabama
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Matt, my neighbor died from that stuff, used it to poison neighborhood cats. Took a couple of weeks to die, hard.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: centralala]
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12/03/14 02:52 PM
12/03/14 02:52 PM
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Matt Brock
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Matt Brock
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I had a rough go with it too. I knew I was a dead man the minute it hit me. No reason I'm alive other than God decided I wasn't done. My dog on the other hand, lived about 60 seconds.
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: centralala]
#1173174
12/03/14 02:55 PM
12/03/14 02:55 PM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 37,090 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 37,090
alabama
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that is some bad stuff, sorry bout the dog.
I didn't know the neighbor was using that stuff, or killing cats. He killed my cat, in my yard a month before this happened. If I'd known it he wouldn't of died from the timic.....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Deer density??
[Re: centralala]
#1176038
12/05/14 04:54 PM
12/05/14 04:54 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,582 Marshall County
FurFlyin
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 39,582
Marshall County
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Matt, how did you ingest Timic?
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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