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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: Bucky205]
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04/13/11 01:42 PM
04/13/11 01:42 PM
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Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 595 St. Clair, Alabama
Bucky205
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Not sure how the DA can enter into an signed agreement to nolle proc on the part of the state, then a judge deny the motion of the DA to do so. Makes you wonder who is prosecuting if it is not the Distric Attorney.
"There are no easy days, not even yesterday"
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: Bucky205]
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04/16/11 06:36 AM
04/16/11 06:36 AM
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hopeful74
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Patriot,
For those of us who only speak American English and are not lawyers, what does those Latin-y legalese quotes mean?
PS, sorry to hear about your neice...and the honeydo's (I hate those things)
Last edited by hopeful74; 04/16/11 06:40 AM.
I don't know nuthin', I just work here...
Ugh... Care bears...
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: Bucky205]
#119439
04/16/11 06:56 AM
04/16/11 06:56 AM
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Posts: 595 St. Clair, Alabama
Bucky205
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Patriot,
Sorry to hear about your niece.
I was in fact on a railroad track, there were rounds in the magazine, nothing chambered, scope covers on, rifle on a sling across my shoulder, and the rifle was never touched. I was exactly 147.5 yards from the end of the management area transiting back to my vehicle. You know where I was stopped as I do. It amazes me that Chris allows hunters to set up their stands in the middle of the management area roads with rifles aimed out the window at vehicles transiting those roads. Then he wants to preach safety to someone transiting back to their vehicle down a railroad track. I have a photo out my vehicle front window with a rifle aimed straight at me, get a clue. DCNR has a tough job, but you guys are starting to throw wide loops in your issuing of citations. Title 9 of the code of Alabama was legislatd for specefic reasons to aid in conservation. When LEO's start loosely applying that code for whatever reason then I have an issue as do others. As far as having the gumption to stand up and face the music. I am fighting somthing I dissagree with on a very limited income. You will notice I post my real name and leave no question as to who I am.
"There are no easy days, not even yesterday"
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: hopeful74]
#119445
04/16/11 07:09 AM
04/16/11 07:09 AM
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Posts: 17,182 Madison
BowtechDan
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Patriot,
For those of us who only speak American English and are not lawyers, what does those Latin-y legalese quotes mean?
PS, sorry to hear about your neice...and the honeydo's (I hate those things) Just google it. It's easy to speak a foreign language on a message board with google.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: Patriot]
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04/16/11 10:01 AM
04/16/11 10:01 AM
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Posts: 10,997 Warrior River Country
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Patriot, To 49er- You are showing your colors da locum melioribus I bow to no man. We have no king in our Republic. My colors are known as "Old Glory". Why don't you become a real patriot and honor your oath to defend our constitution: I, (whoever you are that hides behind the name of "Patriot"), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; ... So help me God.
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: hopeful74]
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04/16/11 10:41 AM
04/16/11 10:41 AM
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MTeague
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Patriot,
For those of us who only speak American English and are not lawyers, what does those Latin-y legalese quotes mean?
PS, sorry to hear about your neice...and the honeydo's (I hate those things) Latin and Greek phrases Definition of: da locum melioribus da locum melioribus: Give place to your betters.
I had much rather be tried by twelve than carried to my grave by six!!!!
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: MTeague]
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04/16/11 10:52 AM
04/16/11 10:52 AM
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Posts: 10,997 Warrior River Country
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Not very fitting advice coming from someone who calls himself a "patriot" is it? I like this better: Declaration of IndependenceJuly 4, 1776 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,...
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: Bucky205]
#119530
04/16/11 01:02 PM
04/16/11 01:02 PM
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Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 595 St. Clair, Alabama
Bucky205
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The LEO's know about that people are hunting from the road, Chris and I have talked about it. He saw the gentleman with his rifle aimed down the road where people were traveling the same day I did. He hates it, but the way the law is written since it is an unimproved road it is allowed. 9-11-257 was legislated to prevent people from shooting deer on private property from a public right of way. The statute has been clearly defined by several judges and attorney general's. By Alabama law you are allowed to walk down a public road or railroad to the area you hunt. The problems arise if you hunt from a public road or railroad. If a man is walking down a pier with a fishing pole is he fishing? If you are waiting on a ride are you loitering? If you assaut someone breaking into your house do you need to be prosecuted? The list goes on and on. If you start down that slippery slope law provided by both the U.S. and Alabama constitutions rapidly fail.
"There are no easy days, not even yesterday"
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: Patriot]
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04/16/11 04:42 PM
04/16/11 04:42 PM
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49er, I have not given advice to anyone.I have never questioned anyones patriotism or suggested that anyone bow to someone else. Apparently, if someone disagrees with you or pokes fun at you they are less intelligent or less than patriotic.
Say what you want to say in plain language instead of in riddles and a foreign language. If I did not interpret your words correctly, then I have no idea what you meant to say to me. This was an issue of an individual not telling the truth. He and I both contend that you are the one who is not telling the truth. Bucky said he was not hunting. I believe he is the one telling the truth and not you. If anyone has a Constitutional right to be on a privately owned R/R track with a loaded gun as you tout, then that same person can show up on my property, your property or anybody elses property with a loaded gun. That is correct. They can. American citizens do have a right to bear arms for defense. If you do not post your property, fence it in or give personal notice not to trespass, then that statement is generally accurate according to our constitutions and state law. That old statement that used to appear in DCNR publications stating that "all land is posted by law" was incorrect and no longer appears in those publications. You need to read what the law actually says. Bucky was not charged with criminal trespassing for good reasons... he was not commiting the crime of trespassing after being warned not to enter or remain on the property. You crossed the line when you questioned my patriotism. You crossed that line yourself when you defended an officer's mistaken interpretation of the law instead of defending the constitutional right to bear arms. Sorry you were offended by me pointing it out to you, but the truth is the truth and you needed to hear it. My name is Eddie Maxwell. Perhaps you would like to introduce yourself with your real name.
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: Bucky205]
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04/16/11 06:45 PM
04/16/11 06:45 PM
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robgillaspie
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Patriot, you and Bhamfred make the same arguement. I don't want to come off as being stupid, but please. Do you not think that it is a stretch for the LEO to make the assumption that he was hunting just because he was stopped while he was walking back. Does he or does he not have a right to have a loaded weapon. Just because his weapon was loaded, that does not mean he was hunting. No matter how hard I try, I just can't see how there is not reasonable doubt.
Oh and to say that Bucky is not telling the truth is stupid. If you say you were not there. Then really how do you know what happened. I am sure that you think alot of the officer who wrote the ticket. But since you don't know bucky, how can you make the assumption that he is lying. Hell he might be the most honorable man in alabama, YOU DON'T KNOW.
Last edited by robgillaspie; 04/16/11 06:52 PM.
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Re: Charged with 9-11-257 on Perdido River WMA
[Re: Patriot]
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04/16/11 06:54 PM
04/16/11 06:54 PM
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Posts: 24,359 Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...
bill
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My opinion is that Bucky is not telling the truth. To say that I am not telling the truth is stupid. Lmao
" I do view Jim Waltz as a really good Presidential candidate" Bama_Earl
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