Thx Luke and 85...It's crazy, we found scrapes and rubs first couple of weeks in December which is when I typically find them in the areas of Etowah and Calhoun county in which I've hunted in the past. So my line of thinking was mid December through first part of January rut. Hunted it hard during these times and sightings on camera and from stand were nonexistent. I have not touched the land going on 2 weeks now and hope and pray you guys are correct. May have to go slide out there tomorrow midday and check some cam's. Been a slow season (zero success) so anxious to get some meat at this point. Thx guys and I hope we all have some success very soon.