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Re: Calling before season
[Re: BhamFred]
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02/03/15 05:51 PM
02/03/15 05:51 PM
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BrentM
Mr. Turkey
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Mr. Turkey
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Jackson County
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I believe it's illegal anyway you just made that up didn't ya???? It is illegal in some states. That law probably has saved some folks from some sound arse whippins over the years. Only place I would consider doing it would be in a place like a park or somewhere there was no hunting whatsoever.
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: BrentM]
#1252230
02/03/15 05:57 PM
02/03/15 05:57 PM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,887 Hoover (poor section)
Johnal3
it froze over
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it froze over
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I believe it's illegal anyway you just made that up didn't ya???? It is illegal in some states. That law probably has saved some folks from some sound arse whippins over the years. Only place I would consider doing it would be in a place like a park or somewhere there was no hunting whatsoever. I was gonna head up to skyline the first week of March. You got any places I can go knock the rust off Brent? 
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: Johnal3]
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02/03/15 06:00 PM
02/03/15 06:00 PM
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Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,291 CAHABA WMA
PEA_RIDGE
10 point
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10 point
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Posts: 4,291
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I believe it's illegal anyway you just made that up didn't ya???? It is illegal in some states. That law probably has saved some folks from some sound arse whippins over the years. Only place I would consider doing it would be in a place like a park or somewhere there was no hunting whatsoever. I was gonna head up to skyline the first week of March. You got any places I can go knock the rust off Brent? ILL RIDE WITH YA JOHN AND WE CAN SWING DOWN BY YEKRUTS AND DARRYL'S PLACE AND SEE IF OUR CALLING IS ANY GOOD THERE AS WELL
Fletch Triple Toe Assassins, Where Pellets Meet Peckers
"A turkey's brain development exceeds that of nearly all vice-presidents." - TOM KELLY
The bird possesses a remarkable ability to turn arrogance into hopelessness. - TOM KELLY
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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02/03/15 06:20 PM
02/03/15 06:20 PM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 242 Hope Hull
YAPER
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OP
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Posts: 242
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I know of guys that got tickets on Guntersville for calling ducks out of season Probably doesn't help if you have your gun while "practicing" your duck calls out of season
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: PEA_RIDGE]
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02/03/15 06:32 PM
02/03/15 06:32 PM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,887 Hoover (poor section)
Johnal3
it froze over
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it froze over
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,887
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I believe it's illegal anyway you just made that up didn't ya???? It is illegal in some states. That law probably has saved some folks from some sound arse whippins over the years. Only place I would consider doing it would be in a place like a park or somewhere there was no hunting whatsoever. I was gonna head up to skyline the first week of March. You got any places I can go knock the rust off Brent? ILL RIDE WITH YA JOHN AND WE CAN SWING DOWN BY YEKRUTS AND DARRYL'S PLACE AND SEE IF OUR CALLING IS ANY GOOD THERE AS WELL Road trip!
This is Aldeer! The place people come to vent their frustrations and completely change their stance a few minutes later...
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: BhamFred]
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02/03/15 08:18 PM
02/03/15 08:18 PM
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Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 16,402 Brierfield
Beadlescomb
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Posts: 16,402
Brierfield
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I know of guys that got tickets on Guntersville for calling ducks out of season there ain't no such law..... The tickets were for harassing wildlife or some such mess
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: Beadlescomb]
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02/04/15 03:43 AM
02/04/15 03:43 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 37,084 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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I know of guys that got tickets on Guntersville for calling ducks out of season there ain't no such law..... The tickets were for harassing wildlife or some such mess there is no "harassing wildlife" law or reg in Alabama....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: YAPER]
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02/04/15 05:31 AM
02/04/15 05:31 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,044 NC
hawglips
6 point
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6 point
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I know a guy that does it routinely to gauge the killability of a bird so he can bring someone in to kill it later. He's a turkey killing hombre. He wants to know if the bird is bold or timid primarily. If the bird is bold and comes on in, he has confidence that chances are good it'll be an easy hunt when he comes back with a newbie. He has his own theory about the pecking order and he's wanting to get a feel for where the bird is on it.
I'll do it for scouting purposes once in a while. For example, a place I hunt just had the prime roosting and lounging area logged out. I'm going to try to go in there before the season to see if the birds are still hanging around. If I don't see enough sign to satisfy me, I might call to see if I can locate something.
I don't believe a turkey is intelligent enough to know that those hunters he saw are associated with the hen he just heard. They putt to alert the other turkeys, and the hen he just heard, to the danger he just saw. I believe the problem is not the calling, but disturbing the birds and alerting them to your presence. If they are not used to being around people, when hunters start showing up where they live, they go on high alert and their behavior is changed. Somebody recently did that study in LA that showed how the birds' patterns totally changed after opening day because of hunters.
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: YAPER]
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02/04/15 05:52 AM
02/04/15 05:52 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 37,084 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Hal, I'm going to disagree with you somewhat on calling. My experience over 45+ years of turkey hunting is that if you call a bird in and spook it, it will be harder to call in again. Do it twice and he will be even harder to call in.
I don't think just calling to a bird will do this, but if he comes in and sees you and spooks it can change his future behavior and willingness to come to a call. 99+% of the call shy birds I've encountered can be directly traced back to some, or several someones, spooking that bird after calling it in.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: YAPER]
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02/04/15 08:03 AM
02/04/15 08:03 AM
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Matt Brock
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Matt Brock
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Yep. I agree with gramps on that. Bad experiences with calling stumps and bushes has made many a turkey wary of a call. Fact.
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: YAPER]
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02/04/15 08:39 AM
02/04/15 08:39 AM
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Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 37,084 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 37,084
alabama
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kill two out of a group of four and see how hard #3 is......much less # 4
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Calling before season
[Re: BhamFred]
#1252998
02/04/15 09:26 AM
02/04/15 09:26 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,044 NC
hawglips
6 point
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6 point
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NC
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Hal, I'm going to disagree with you somewhat on calling. My experience over 45+ years of turkey hunting is that if you call a bird in and spook it, it will be harder to call in again. Do it twice and he will be even harder to call in.
I don't think just calling to a bird will do this, but if he comes in and sees you and spooks it can change his future behavior and willingness to come to a call. 99+% of the call shy birds I've encountered can be directly traced back to some, or several someones, spooking that bird after calling it in. I don't doubt you. I'm just relating what he does. And he doesn't spook them. I personally suspect it's the spooking and seeing a human sneaking around in his bedroom that does the damage, not the calling. Turkeys don't like humans sneaking around in their safe spots acting like a predator. I'd point to that cool study if I could find it.
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