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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: YEKRUT]
#1274286
02/23/15 03:47 AM
02/23/15 03:47 AM
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JUGHEAD
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I really do not see anything wrong with the contest. It's all in fun and I am having fun as are most of the other folks in it. If it's not fun for you to chase a champion team then so be it, if you like to think that your team could be the next team 1 then sign up and let's do this thing. If you think beating this team is bad wait until a team beats them and see how tough they will be. Everyone needs to remember this is all for fun, there are no prizes, there are no medals or trophys. What about just one, minor change? What about, similar to the gobbler nation contest, if folks on a team kill more than 3....their lesser birds can roll over to their non participating and/or non killing teammates? That way, there is something that folks who kill some can do to help their team if some of them are struggling? As of now....if a fella is hot....he don't get to help his team whatsoever in essence....the only competing he got to do was the "competition" of who can draw the best teammates in the random draw. I scored 270 and killed 7 turkeys by myself a few years ago, arKic was out of the country, and my team still got beat by 300 just as an example of what a bad luck draw can do to your chances. If we want the "competition" to be about nothing but who has the best luck at random draws, then don't change a thing. If we want it to be about a "team" of folks acting as a team and competing against each other for fun as a, you know, TEAM....then let them be a damn team and help each other out. Team 1 knows they aint gonna lose because they hit the lottery when they drew together and that 90% of the teams are dead in the water before the contest ever starts because of dead weight. If Team 1 has any nads....they would be all for this because it will drastically increase the number of teams that at least have a snowball's chance in hell of beating them and drastically reduce the large number of teams that score about 300. Would do you say Team 1? Yall yella? 
Last edited by JUGHEAD; 02/23/15 03:48 AM.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: arKic]
#1274341
02/23/15 04:31 AM
02/23/15 04:31 AM
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JUGHEAD
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You don't have a great memory, I only got two birds last year, and with your suggestion our totals would had put us in the record book... Oh make no mistake....we aint got much of a prayer regardless...but more teams would have a prayer though!
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: JUGHEAD]
#1274360
02/23/15 04:41 AM
02/23/15 04:41 AM
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Monroe Co.,Al
gobblebox
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I really do not see anything wrong with the contest. It's all in fun and I am having fun as are most of the other folks in it. If it's not fun for you to chase a champion team then so be it, if you like to think that your team could be the next team 1 then sign up and let's do this thing. If you think beating this team is bad wait until a team beats them and see how tough they will be. Everyone needs to remember this is all for fun, there are no prizes, there are no medals or trophys. What about just one, minor change? What about, similar to the gobbler nation contest, if folks on a team kill more than 3....their lesser birds can roll over to their non participating and/or non killing teammates? That way, there is something that folks who kill some can do to help their team if some of them are struggling? As of now....if a fella is hot....he don't get to help his team whatsoever in essence....the only competing he got to do was the "competition" of who can draw the best teammates in the random draw. I scored 270 and killed 7 turkeys by myself a few years ago, arKic was out of the country, and my team still got beat by 300 just as an example of what a bad luck draw can do to your chances. If we want the "competition" to be about nothing but who has the best luck at random draws, then don't change a thing. If we want it to be about a "team" of folks acting as a team and competing against each other for fun as a, you know, TEAM....then let them be a damn team and help each other out. Team 1 knows they aint gonna lose because they hit the lottery when they drew together and that 90% of the teams are dead in the water before the contest ever starts because of dead weight. If Team 1 has any nads....they would be all for this because it will drastically increase the number of teams that at least have a snowball's chance in hell of beating them and drastically reduce the large number of teams that score about 300. Would do you say Team 1? Yall yella? Guys I'm not taking this as serious as y'all think,I just want teams to have members that are gonna try to kill birds and give team 1 some competition,I like jugheads idea,if there are 6 members per team and each can enter 3 birds,then why not make it to where 18 birds can be entered per team and not limit it to 3 per member,like Jughead said,he may kill 6-7 birds and his team may have a member or two that may not kill a bird or only kill one or two,let the other members pick up the slack on their team if others are in a rut or just ain't hunting
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: gobblebox]
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02/23/15 05:47 AM
02/23/15 05:47 AM
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JUGHEAD
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Guys I'm not taking this as serious as y'all think I promise I'm not either. Just brainstorming about how to make it more fun by it being more competitive from top to bottom instead of one, MAYBE two teams sorta, kinda threatening Team 1....who is only a team because they are luckier than a 3 peckered dog for being drawn together.  I hesitated forever about bringing it up whatsoever simply because I didn't want to remotely give the folks that don't hunt as much the wrong idea that I and others don't want them signing up. I don't mean to imply that whatsoever. It would just be nice for a team to not be dead in the water, before the contest ever even starts, as a result of those folks that don't get to go as much, don't have any good places to hunt, are rookies at turkey hunting, etc.
Last edited by JUGHEAD; 02/23/15 05:48 AM.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: YAPER]
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02/23/15 05:59 AM
02/23/15 05:59 AM
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Atoler
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Another option is top 5 birds per team regardless of who killed them scores. You can still register all birds killed but the top 5 scoring birds per team count for the teams score. I don't like that because it starts to take luck into it. A team that kills 10 birds between 6 of them, could potentially outscore a team that kills 60. I like the 18 birds, that way, if you can kill 60 between your team members, you still have a distinct advantage, but a team that can kill 30 will still have a shot.
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: Atoler]
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02/23/15 06:12 AM
02/23/15 06:12 AM
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Northport, Al.
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Another option is top 5 birds per team regardless of who killed them scores. You can still register all birds killed but the top 5 scoring birds per team count for the teams score. I don't like that because it starts to take luck into it. A team that kills 10 birds between 6 of them, could potentially outscore a team that kills 60. I like the 18 birds, that way, if you can kill 60 between your team members, you still have a distinct advantage, but a team that can kill 30 will still have a shot. I feel the above statement is pushing it. A team can "Potentially" do anything, but 10 birds outscoring 60 is far reaching in my opinion. Let's at least be realistic. As far as luck, it is already established in the drawing process of the teams. God Bless, David B.
Premium member #8925
Team Rack Addicts
2016 Aldeer Deer Champions
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: BOFF]
#1274493
02/23/15 06:31 AM
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Atoler
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Another option is top 5 birds per team regardless of who killed them scores. You can still register all birds killed but the top 5 scoring birds per team count for the teams score. I don't like that because it starts to take luck into it. A team that kills 10 birds between 6 of them, could potentially outscore a team that kills 60. I like the 18 birds, that way, if you can kill 60 between your team members, you still have a distinct advantage, but a team that can kill 30 will still have a shot. I feel the above statement is pushing it. A team can "Potentially" do anything, but 10 birds outscoring 60 is far reaching in my opinion. Let's at least be realistic. As far as luck, it is already established in the drawing process of the teams. God Bless, David B. I think you missed what I meant. If we only enter 5 birds, then it will come down to luck. Basically, it will be luck of who kills the whopper, because most every team will be able to put together 5 70 point birds. I would rather have a total number that rewards teams for killing a lot of birds, but doesn't automatically eliminate a team that has 4 good members and 2 no shows.
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: Atoler]
#1274504
02/23/15 06:43 AM
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Northport, Al.
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I think you missed what I meant. If we only enter 5 birds, then it will come down to luck. Basically, it will be luck of who kills the whopper, because most every team will be able to put together 5 70 point birds. I would rather have a total number that rewards teams for killing a lot of birds, but doesn't automatically eliminate a team that has 4 good members and 2 no shows.
The "whopper bird" is going to sway the scales heavily regardless of the number killed. On another note, as I've been thinking. There isn't an easy answer. One can make it complicated and have "serious teams" and "beginning teams", but who in the world has the time to arrange all that? Have any of the posters in this thread actually headed something like this up, other than Yekrut, to realise the headaches and time it takes to do this? I see the original object as letting everyone join, regardless of experience in turkey killings, and letting it be a simple contest. There isn't an easy way to do it, unless a lot of time, effort, and complications are to be met head on. I don't think anyone here, is up for the challenge. I know I'm not, as it's too much of a hassle, with little to no appreciation for the job done. There will always be someone who thinks it can be done better, or someone who is unhappy. Just my thoughts, and not directed at anybody. I just don't see an easy answer. God Bless, David B.
Premium member #8925
Team Rack Addicts
2016 Aldeer Deer Champions
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: BOFF]
#1274527
02/23/15 06:58 AM
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Atoler
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I think you missed what I meant. If we only enter 5 birds, then it will come down to luck. Basically, it will be luck of who kills the whopper, because most every team will be able to put together 5 70 point birds. I would rather have a total number that rewards teams for killing a lot of birds, but doesn't automatically eliminate a team that has 4 good members and 2 no shows.
The "whopper bird" is going to sway the scales heavily regardless of the number killed. On another note, as I've been thinking. There isn't an easy answer. One can make it complicated and have "serious teams" and "beginning teams", but who in the world has the time to arrange all that? Have any of the posters in this thread actually headed something like this up, other than Yekrut, to realise the headaches and time it takes to do this? I see the original object as letting everyone join, regardless of experience in turkey killings, and letting it be a simple contest. There isn't an easy way to do it, unless a lot of time, effort, and complications are to be met head on. I don't think anyone here, is up for the challenge. I know I'm not, as it's too much of a hassle, with little to no appreciation for the job done. There will always be someone who thinks it can be done better, or someone who is unhappy. Just my thoughts, and not directed at anybody. I just don't see an easy answer. God Bless, David B. I haven't added it up, but I would imagine, if you tally last years scores and take the top 5 from each team, atleast half the teams are going to be very close. This is going to eliminate a teams effectiveness if they really give the birds hell. That is why I was opting for 18 birds can be entered. At least most the teams can't enter that many birds, so it only rewards the turkey killers. But at the same time, it allows the possibility of 2 or 3 teams to be in the running with team 1. Glancing back at the scores from last year, there were 2 teams around 200 points behind. No one else was even close. I'm not trying to add to yek's work load. I don't want to make it more complicated, the simplicity is the main reason I do this contest. But, if it was to be changed, I don't see how 18 birds from a team would make it any more work than 3 birds each for 6 team members.
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: YEKRUT]
#1274531
02/23/15 07:00 AM
02/23/15 07:00 AM
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USA
marshmud991
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How about setting up an F-Troop group for us beginners who will only have a few days to hunt. I really enjoy the contests and I'm sure lots of other guys and gals do also but won't enter because we know we will be the dead weight on the team. I think it would be fun for a beginners competition.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: YEKRUT]
#1274537
02/23/15 07:03 AM
02/23/15 07:03 AM
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Hartselle Al.
n2deer
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Old Mossy Horns
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Man yekrut is going to need a raise.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Re: Contest signup is posted
[Re: YEKRUT]
#1274557
02/23/15 07:26 AM
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JUGHEAD
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I went back and looked out of curiosity. Last year, there were 126 people (21 teams) in the contest. 54 of them killed and entered 0 or 1 turkey. That is an average of 2.6 hunters per team killing zero or 1. Which makes our point perfectly. Most teams ain't got a prayer. The scores reflect this. I say just make it simple (I don't wish a bunch of work on Brandon either....we love to pick at each other but I truly do appreciate the hell out of what he does in these contests!) and drop the two lowest individual scores on the team. Or take the best 18 either one. Or do nothing. Don't really matter to me when it's all said and done. I just think it would be lots more fun if it were more competitive from top to bottom. As of right now, Team 1 is like the damn Harlem Globetrotters....and they're making custom calls and stuff....bragging about beating up teams from the local 10 and under rec basketball league.
Last edited by JUGHEAD; 02/23/15 07:33 AM.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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