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baiting issue addressed by hank jr #1302231
03/19/15 05:37 AM
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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302236
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I misread this at first. I thought the heading said "Bathing Suit Issue Addressed by Hank Jr".

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302248
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He kills two or three good deer a year on his land, he really enjoys hunting. I hope it passes, what is the difference in pouring it out of a sack and having a large field planted in corn?

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302267
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Absolutely none IMO. Everything we do as land managers is meant to attract wildlife to our property. This includes plots,TSI, habitat improvements, planting fruit tree's, fertilizing native browse, and yes the use of bait. Usually the holier than thou rich folks are the ones with the problem with it.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302298
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I wonder how much profit comes off of baiting tickets a year?

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302301
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Reckon Chairman Dan Moultrie had to pay him an appearance fee? Making baiting legal would be good for bidness

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: blumsden] #1302303
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Originally Posted by blumsden
Absolutely none IMO. Everything we do as land managers is meant to attract wildlife to our property. This includes plots,TSI, habitat improvements, planting fruit tree's, fertilizing native browse, and yes the use of bait. Usually the holier than thou rich folks are the ones with the problem with it.


Let's see, the holier than thou rich folks are the ones with the problem with it. It has nothing to do with herd health. Supplying year round food sources, no way. Concern for health issues from communal feeding off the ground, heck no. People only care about bringing deer on to their property?
Seems to me it doesn't matter what you have in your wallet. Holiness, unless you worship deer, has no bearing on this. Also, I'm in wonderment that Hank is even being listened to on this subject. (Oh he kills some nice deer!)


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302310
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Rich folks are the ones with unlimited resources for feeding programs. Normal folks are the ones who feel forced to participate just to attempt to keep up.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302318
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Right, rich folks can buy a helluva lot more corn than most of us. In other words, you can't outcorn them.


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302321
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I'd bet that most of the ton a day of corn leaving out of Woodstock during season didn't ride with "rich folks".....


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: M48scout] #1302323
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Is it really that expensive to fill up a 250 lb feeder or 2???? thumbup

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: timbercruiser] #1302324
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Originally Posted by timbercruiser
He kills two or three good deer a year on his land, he really enjoys hunting. I hope it passes, what is the difference in pouring it out of a sack and having a large field planted in corn?


There is a HUGE GIGANTIC difference that is a matter of common sense.


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Gotcha1] #1302325
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Originally Posted by Gotcha1
Originally Posted by blumsden
Absolutely none IMO. Everything we do as land managers is meant to attract wildlife to our property. This includes plots,TSI, habitat improvements, planting fruit tree's, fertilizing native browse, and yes the use of bait. Usually the holier than thou rich folks are the ones with the problem with it.


Let's see, the holier than thou rich folks are the ones with the problem with it. It has nothing to do with herd health. Supplying year round food sources, no way. Concern for health issues from communal feeding off the ground, heck no. People only care about bringing deer on to their property?
Seems to me it doesn't matter what you have in your wallet. Holiness, unless you worship deer, has no bearing on this. Also, I'm in wonderment that Hank is even being listened to on this subject. (Oh he kills some nice deer!)

I'm all about heard health, but some of the crap they spew about baiting is bull. All deer eat from the ground. Thats where you food plot grows. Thats where acorns are when they fall from a tree. If there really concerned with disease, then they should outlaw plots smaller than 1/4 acre, if there worried about deer feeding in close proximity of each other. Supplemental feeding is legal, why are they not concerned about the herd health with that? Here's a stat for you, deer eat dirt, at mineral sites, why is trophy rock legal? I just want the state to be consistent, not spewing bull for there agenda. BTW, what about water troughs, why are they legal?

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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Gotcha1] #1302328
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Originally Posted by Gotcha1
Right, rich folks can buy a helluva lot more corn than most of us. In other words, you can't outcorn them.


That is funny.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: blumsden] #1302329
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I'm so sick of this coming up each year. The reg that went into effect last year was supposed to put this issue to rest once and for all. Obviously it was just subterfuge to further advance the issue. mad

Corn bait is for incompetent unethical hunters.

It is bad enough that we already have battle of the food plots and people putting food plots right on property lines. Now it will be battle of the corn piles. And make no mistake, there will be arseholish unethical shmucky people putting it right on property lines too.


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: Possum Hunter] #1302336
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Here we go again! popcorn

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: WmHunter] #1302339
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
I'm so sick of this coming up each year. The reg that went into effect last year was supposed to put this issue to rest once and for all. Obviously it was just subterfuge to further advance the issue. mad

Corn bait is for incompetent unethical hunters.

I don't bait, but thats a dumb statment. Why are foodplots for competent hunters? Why is, you hunting over a dropping persimmon tree, that you planted just to shoot deer under, so much more ethical? Why is hunting over the only whiteoak dropping acorns, so much more ethical? To me, i don't care if you bait or not, i don't, not because its unethical, but because its not financially feasible. Plots, and trees are more feasible and will feed more deer.

Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: TR62] #1302340
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Originally Posted by TR62
Here we go again! popcorn


Yeah, thanks to shmucky redneck arseholes in the Legislature who keep bringing this up when there are more serious things for our State to be dealing with. No to mention the shmucky arsewipes in the shadows behind them advocating this garbage.


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: blumsden] #1302341
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Originally Posted by blumsden
Originally Posted by WmHunter
I'm so sick of this coming up each year. The reg that went into effect last year was supposed to put this issue to rest once and for all. Obviously it was just subterfuge to further advance the issue. mad

Corn bait is for incompetent unethical hunters.

I don't bait, but thats a dumb statment. Why are foodplots for competent hunters? Why is, you hunting over a dropping persimmon tree, that you planted just to shoot deer under, so much more ethical? Why is hunting over the only whiteoak dropping acorns, so much more ethical? To me, i don't care if you bait or not, i don't, not because its unethical, but because its not financially feasible. Plots, and trees are more feasible and will feed more deer.


Respectfully, if you don't know the difference then you have no common sense. Sorry to say that but that is the way it is.


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Re: baiting issue addressed by hank jr [Re: hunting13] #1302342
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Reckon Chairman Dan Moultrie had to pay him an appearance fee? Making baiting legal would be good for bidness


Email Dan and ask him. This is his email address on the DCNR site:

danlmoultrie@gmail.com


As to "making baiting legal would be good for bidness" ... enough states already allow feeding year-round (like Alabama) and hunting over it during the season to be "good for bidness." And enough law-breakers put it out anyway to be "good for bidness."

So whatever Alabama does or doesn't do would be negligible to Moultrie's bottom line -- and that bottom line is EBSCO's, not Dan's -- in regard to selling more feeders.

Knowing Dan, if he heard that Hank or Waylon or Willie or Elvis or Elviria wanted to speak to the Legislative committee his response would be, "Go ahead. It's an open meeting."





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