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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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03/24/15 07:33 AM
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Same mineral lick one year apart, I just mowed about 1/8 of an acre around it so I would not get false triggers on my cameras. Started out about 1'x1' in March 2010 and was 8'x8' and 10" deep when I moved from there in Dec. 2011 to where I live now. One of my mineral licks I have here on the farm I started in the spring of 2012 is only about 4'x4', but then again I don't have the population here as I had living at the other place,
It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: BSK]
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03/24/15 10:07 AM
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Never had any problem getting deer to use a lick quickly, as long as the lick was established in the right location. Like real estate, location is everything. Exactly, I have one that is rarely used, may get 6-8 pics a week during summer. Two about 1/2 mile either direction that light a camera up like a pin ball machine. I start mine and freshen them with 1 part di-cal phosphate to 2 parts red trace mineral. That's all ya need.
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: 2Dogs]
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03/25/15 12:19 AM
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Never had any problem getting deer to use a lick quickly, as long as the lick was established in the right location. Like real estate, location is everything. Exactly, I have one that is rarely used, may get 6-8 pics a week during summer. Two about 1/2 mile either direction that light a camera up like a pin ball machine. I start mine and freshen them with 1 part di-cal phosphate to 2 parts red trace mineral. That's all ya need. I think soil type has a lot to do with it. My neighbor has a salt water pool and where the overflow is the deer has dug it up. Definitely not a prime location. Red clay they will find it and tear it up. 2Dogs, is the soil the same in all locations??
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
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03/25/15 01:28 AM
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I've used di-calcium phosphate in a lick before, but only because i read where you should. It is a cattle supplement. What exactly does it do for deer? As BSK already said, deer are not cattle. Does anyone know, or is it just one of those things that someone come up with? Dang good question. I was going to start 4 new licks this year and was going to try it just because I read it here. I would also like to ask Swampy his soil type he is using AH. I know from past experience red clay is by far the best for me and sand is the worse. I think the clay holds it better and sand leeches out quickly...same as lime.
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: centralala]
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03/25/15 06:01 AM
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I know from past experience red clay is by far the best for me and sand is the worse. I think the clay holds it better and sand leeches out quickly...same as lime. This has been my experience with salt licks in general. They see the most usage in red clay soils and the least usage in sandy soils.
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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03/25/15 07:17 AM
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centralala, my soil type is Alfisol and Mollisol, mostly Alfisol. I really doubt my mineral licks are doing much good with my soil types, I just like to have them for my trail cameras. My claypan starts at about 12"-14" deep here on the farm.
It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: blumsden]
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03/25/15 09:39 AM
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I've used di-calcium phosphate in a lick before, but only because i read where you should. It is a cattle supplement. What exactly does it do for deer? As BSK already said, deer are not cattle. Does anyone know, or is it just one of those things that someone come up with? My understanding, calcium and phosphorous helps with bones and antlers. I don't know if my recipe is exactly per Dr. Kroll but it's close. He always advocated a lower salt %. That's why I don't add extra plain salt to mine. Red trace mineral is 90 or more percent salt anyway.
"Why do you ask"?
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: centralala]
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03/25/15 09:40 AM
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Never had any problem getting deer to use a lick quickly, as long as the lick was established in the right location. Like real estate, location is everything. Exactly, I have one that is rarely used, may get 6-8 pics a week during summer. Two about 1/2 mile either direction that light a camera up like a pin ball machine. I start mine and freshen them with 1 part di-cal phosphate to 2 parts red trace mineral. That's all ya need. 2Dogs, is the soil the same in all locations?? Different soils. The one least used is probably the most sandy.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
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03/25/15 02:00 PM
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Never had any problem getting deer to use a lick quickly, as long as the lick was established in the right location. Like real estate, location is everything. Exactly, I have one that is rarely used, may get 6-8 pics a week during summer. Two about 1/2 mile either direction that light a camera up like a pin ball machine. I start mine and freshen them with 1 part di-cal phosphate to 2 parts red trace mineral. That's all ya need. 2Dogs, is the soil the same in all locations?? Different soils. The one least used is probably the most sandy. I suspect that is your problem but you hunt in them freaking mountains and know more about that than I ever will. In sand I always dig down 6" - 12" to see if I can get red clay. The good thing about red clay is the licks are always great and it holds lime well. The down side is generally antler size is less than other soils especially prairie soil. This is for my area only, don't know about others. Oh, and the red clay grows pines great.
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: swamp_fever2002]
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03/25/15 02:04 PM
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centralala, my soil type is Alfisol and Mollisol, mostly Alfisol. I really doubt my mineral licks are doing much good with my soil types, I just like to have them for my trail cameras. My claypan starts at about 12"-14" deep here on the farm. I knew you would come up with something I would have to google!  Have you every tried the AH alone or do you always put it in with salt? If so, what were the results?
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: Fezzik]
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03/25/15 03:46 PM
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WHITETAIL DEER HOMEMADE MINERAL MIX RECIPE Ingredients: Makes 200 lbs. for about $23.00
1 part Di-calcium phosphate, this is a dairy feed additive bought at feed stores. Comes in 50lb Bags at around $11.00 you need one bag.
2 parts Trace mineral salt, the red and loos kind without the medications. Comes in 50lb Bags at around $5.00 you need two bags.
1 part Stock salt, ice cream salt. Comes in 50lb Bags at around $2.00 you need one bag. Got all my stuff purchased. Just did not get home in time today to get it put out. Hope to get it down tomorrow afternoon when I get in from work. Here is what I bought: 1 - 50# Bag of Dicalcium phosphate - $22.95 per bag 2 - 50# Bags of non-medicated red trace minerals - $6.75 per bag 1 - 50# bag of loose white salt - $6.50 per bag 1 - Box of Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda - $3.47 per box 1 - Trophy Rock - $13.00 As you can see, prices have gone up quite a bit over the prices posted by Fezzik. I was thinking about putting out only 1/2 of everything that I bought and saving the other half (unmixed) to refresh the site later on. Is that a good idea or do I just need to put out everything I bought at the onset? Thanks for everyone's advice.
Cuz-Pat
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
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03/25/15 06:31 PM
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CUZ THAT WILL BE OK. I USE ONLY THE DI-CAL AND TRACE MINERALS. IMO NO NEED IN THE LOOSE WHITE SALT AS THE TRACE MINERAL IS ALREADY 96% SALT. I ALSO USE THE WASHING SODA OR ABOUT 6 BOXES OR GRAPE JELLO TO KICK IT OFF.
I USE A 2:1 RATIO OF DI-CAL TO TRACE MINERALS
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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03/26/15 12:15 AM
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This ain't hard fellers find a small depression or dig a shallow hole. Pour 50 lbs red trace mineral in then pour 25 lbs (1/2 bag) of di-cal. Stir it up with a stick , hoe or shovel. I've never needed extra salt, kool-aid , jello, baking soda to start one. It's the salt that is the attractant, and trace mineral is 90% plus salt.
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Re: Establishing a Mineral Lick
[Re: sethjamtoe]
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03/26/15 02:03 PM
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I got all my stuff put out this afternoon. I went on ahead and put every bit of it out. I decided I'd just buy more later to refresh it. Site turned out to be about 6' square. I finished raking it in just as a slight rain began. Hope to start getting some good PICS over it soon.
Cuz-Pat
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