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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: Clem]
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04/20/15 11:11 AM
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Those are good questions, but if the guy was not a warden and was just a poacher with a dcnr cap on, why give back the keys? Why do a license check? Back to the OP for a minute ... it said he was "in full camo but with no gun."
What game warden goes on work detail without his firearm?
And maybe I missed it, but you said he had on a cap. DCNR official cap? Did he have and show a badge and/or other official identification?
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: Clem]
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04/20/15 11:23 AM
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Back to the OP for a minute ... it said he was "in full camo but with no gun."
What game warden goes on work detail without his firearm?
And maybe I missed it, but you said he had on a cap. DCNR official cap? Did he have and show a badge and/or other official identification?
I recall he had on camo pants and a light tan shirt with a Dept of Conservation type hat. He definitely was not wearing a gun. I saw no badge or nametag and he only offered up his name when I asked him. Remember I just got checked in Lowdnes County two weeks ago and that GW had on dark green pants, light tan shirt, wore a badge and had a DNCR hat and was definitely carrying a pistol. He also had a ticket book in his back pocket. But in that instance I was at a gate on my 4 wheeler and the game warden pulled up in his truck and got out. Could not have been nicer.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: JA]
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04/20/15 11:33 AM
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JA call their office with the name you have now and see if you get his number. I'd call him to verify it was him. Like others have said if he didn't have his side arm he was hunting not working.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: JA]
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04/20/15 11:36 AM
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Back to the OP for a minute ... it said he was "in full camo but with no gun."
What game warden goes on work detail without his firearm?
And maybe I missed it, but you said he had on a cap. DCNR official cap? Did he have and show a badge and/or other official identification?
I recall he had on camo pants and a light tan shirt with a Dept of Conservation type hat. He definitely was not wearing a gun. I saw no badge or nametag and he only offered up his name when I asked him. Remember I just got checked in Lowdnes County two weeks ago and that GW had on dark green pants, light tan shirt, wore a badge and had a DNCR hat and was definitely carrying a pistol. He also had a ticket book in his back pocket. But in that instance I was at a gate on my 4 wheeler and the game warden pulled up in his truck and got out. Could not have been nicer. The guy may have been a warden but he was more than likely hunting, would be my guess.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: JA]
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04/20/15 11:39 AM
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Parking to hunt Abandoned Now if....and only if... there was some probable cause of laws being broken or even some hint of some illegal activity or some actual suspicious activity or some kind of situation needing investigation---then taking the keys would be proper and warranted. Otherwise it is a "pretend" situation and totally a farce and bogus. "It might be stolen" is a cheap excuse....after following tracks, warm engine, on private land, during turkey season, just so happened to be 70 yards from hunter and "Waiting".
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: Hogwild]
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04/20/15 11:41 AM
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I tend to think he got bluffed out.......
And that the guy was not even GW! My thoughts.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: JA]
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04/20/15 11:45 AM
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I agree with Hogwild. I think you got bluffed by someone who went through the motions of checking your license but was scouting or trying to hunt or something.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: jmj120]
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04/20/15 11:46 AM
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I tend to think he got bluffed out.......
And that the guy was not even GW! My thoughts. I disagree. If it was a poaccher when he found the "scooter" he would have hightailed. If it wasn't the GW why take the keys if it was a poacher?
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: josht101]
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04/20/15 11:52 AM
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and thats the best you got???? Hey Fool, I wasn't even in on this Fred Bashing tonight. Been in on it plenty of other times though because you are an arrogant prick that I doubt has done half the things you claim to have done. You're the biggest armchair bad ass of them all. Now go back to remembering your stories however you like. Ouch...
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: Hogwild]
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04/20/15 11:53 AM
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I tend to think he got bluffed out.......
And that the guy was not even GW! That's what I thought from the start.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: Abram]
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04/20/15 11:56 AM
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Keep in mind ATVs in AL have no registration so checking to see if they are stolen from down in the woods is no easy matter. Also keep in mind I've been playing the devil's advocate in giving you why a complaint would be useless. Sure taking the keys was pretextual to keep the hunter from leaving, but it is also easily explained as a more reasonable action.
The bottom line is when you are in law enforcement , you have to use all legal and constitutional means available at your disposal. Sometimes people don't like it if it happens to them but that is how it works. The criminals have no regard for the rules so LE has to stretch them as far as they can as long as they stay within the boundaries and don't break them.
Call Mark Rouleu and ask him if it is OK if you doubt me.
How many people think it is wrong to tell a bald faced lie to a suspect during interrogation? The Supreme Court says no problem at all, it is just an investigative tool. I think it is very wrong for LE to lie to a suspect. LE is using a falsehood to obtain a truth. If we as citizens lie to LE it is called perjury and is punishable by jail time isn't it? No, citizens lie to police everyday. Every call they go on has two or three sides to a story. Look at Ferguson and the witness statements. Go to any domestic or neighbor confrontation and they all have a different story. People pulled over for traffic violations lie. I didn't see the stop sign, I wasn't speeding etc. LEOs hear far more lies than they dish out. That's why they become cynical as do most folks working in a job that deals with folks in a similar capacity.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: JA]
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04/20/15 12:02 PM
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Are we sure he had no gun? If he didn't then he wasn't a GW nor is he much of a hunter, unless he rings their necks, in which case he is a heck of a hunter.
OP, you don't have to file a complaint, but you need to check with the district supervisor to make sure he is a GW. If he isn't, and it sounds an awful lot like he isn't, he committed a felony and the officials need to know about it before someone gets hurt. It's crazy, but some nuts get their rocks off doing stuff like that.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: MTeague]
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04/20/15 12:06 PM
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BhamFred, you are the most unintellectual partially educated person on this site. I don't care how old your deccrepped mind/body is. You're a dumbass. I think you did real good writing that sentence...for a skwerl brained 12 year old girl. You forgot to put brain dead in your post. You seem to be obsessed with that term. Go kill a fallow deer in a fence you old has been fcker. Oh lord... I take one or 2 days off from aldeer and y'all decide to be awesome.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: jawbone]
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04/20/15 12:09 PM
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Are we sure he had no gun? If he didn't then he wasn't a GW nor is he much of a hunter, unless he rings their necks, in which case he is a heck of a hunter.
OP, you don't have to file a complaint, but you need to check with the district supervisor to make sure he is a GW. If he isn't, and it sounds an awful lot like he isn't, he committed a felony and the officials need to know about it before someone gets hurt. It's crazy, but some nuts get their rocks off doing stuff like that. And here lies another problem. Doesn't have to be a GW to come on your land and check you for hunting violations.
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: centralala]
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04/20/15 12:16 PM
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Two things I've learned from watching Ironsides, Perry Mason, Mannix, Columbo, Barnaby Jones, Hill Street Blues and Law & Order: Always ask for ID. Never talk without an attorney if you "take a little ride to the station to clear things up."
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Re: Weird encounter with a game warden
[Re: Clem]
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04/20/15 12:25 PM
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Two things I've learned from watching Ironsides, Perry Mason, Mannix, Columbo, Barnaby Jones, Hill Street Blues and Law & Order: Always ask for ID. Never talk without an attorney if you "take a little ride to the station to clear things up." Bingo...
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